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<p>Although lacking in tact, Paul is right. The Hasselblad is an early modular camera, and in no way is it environmentally sealed. Use in high humidity requires consideration, and no AC.<br>

Some have had reliability problems with Hasselblads, and others like myself have had none. I can't seem to find a reason that some are harder on cameras than others.<br>

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<p>If you shoot while your lens is fogged, the results may resemble fogging due to a light leak.</p>

<p>When entering an air-conditioned room from humid tropical conditions, I leave my gear in a closed bag until it has time to cool down. The bag also allows the humidity trapped inside to dissipate gradually. Entering a cool room can cause fogging inside the lens, which is much more problematic than just the front surface and can lead to spots which don't disappear.</p>

<p>I spent a lot of time in Puerto Rico on engineering projects, where the dew point frequently exceeded 90 deg F. I bought a P&S which I kept in my shirt pocket, keeping it warm enough to avoid condensation inside or out. (I had to be sure the lens was pointed outward.)</p>

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<p>You buy a new car hit a tree with that car and complain about the quality of the car?<br /> Maybe first try to learn how to drive.</p>

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<p>Why do you ask questions here when you already know the answer?</p>

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<p>Mr Gardener,<br>

Any particular reason for this style of response?</p>

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<p>I was annoyed that the quality of a great camera system was questioned simply because the person who decided to do so does not understand the laws of physics.<br>

Photo.net has more and more changed into a forum where individuals who have not taken<br>

any trouble to find out what they can themselves ask ignorant questions.<br>

I wish you all luck and will no longer participate here. </p>

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<p>Dear Friend Paul, I might be just one ignorant person on photo.net who you did not like, but for sure there are so many very nice people here who would learn a lot from you, so please my friend, do not let my ignorancy bother you and remain here, even if you want me to leave this site for you to remain here, I promise I will , thank you again my friend, and again my best regards to you and yours.</p>
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<p>Paul, I have read your other posts, and there is no doubt that you know what you are talking about. The problem here is the way you responded. Step back for a minute. We have a guy who does not speak English as his first language in a foreign country having just bought a lot of gear that he has wanted for a long time. Perhaps, he should have done more research. I know that I didn't do a lot of 'operational' research before buying.<br>

Perhaps the initial question could have been worded better, but the internet is a funny place with many cultures and language speakers trying to communicate. Your initial response would not have helped me a lot, and English is my first language.<br>

I think that you would be a loss to the PN community but that choice is yours.</p>

 

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<p>Rashed,</p>

<p>I am sorry a personal thing like an ever increasing number of questions for which the answer can be found in the owners manual of a camera culminated in the response I posted.<br>

I do not feel comfortable between posters who do not take the trouble to read a manual and simply hit forums with that kind of questions.<br>

Manuals can be downloaded free of charge.<br>

Of course this does not concern your question here.</p>

<p>Jeff Grant and Bill Pearce,</p>

<p>Thanks for your kind words and support.<br>

My decision is final.<br>

I wish you all luck and lots of fun with Hasselblad cameras.</p>

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<p>I think MR Paul Gardeners answer shows alot of ignorance and petulance to make it worse. OH by the way I hope MR Gardener KNows what petulance is.<br />Just a bad sample of a "BRAND FAN BOY" who feels insulted by a legitimate question about his beloved camera.<br />By the way MR Gardener I also think the community of Photo.net could do much better without toxic ppl who can not contribute with positive answers that will ultimatelly help a fellow member.<br />Rashed you have gained my respect by showing how to civically answer to this person.<br />Regards.<br />J.A.R.T.<br>

P.D its good that decision is final. best of luck.</p>

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<p>because the person who decided to do so does not understand the laws of physics.</p>

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<p>Paul, if I took that approach, I'd be out of a job! Well OK, that's because I teach college physics & astronomy. It can demand a lot of patience to bring a beginner up to a reasonable level of comprehension, especially a reticent beginner - but it is all the more satisfying to succeed in these cases. I try not to be hard on people who genuinely want to find answers to seemingly basic questions...I feel I've achieved something good if I help to give them the answers, or even better, if I can show them how to work out such answers for themselves. In these forums, sometimes (as in my post above) I cannot resist using a topic under discussion as the springboard for more exploration of the underlying physical concepts. Physics education by stealth, perhaps.</p>

<p>Rashed has acknowledged (profusely!) that he has learnt from all the advice he's been given. His question was beyond the territory of a camera manual, as you acknowledge. It sounds like you had reached tipping point based on a succession of other posted questions that bothered you; but you know, you don't have to respond to any of them! I'd like to see you stay here and bring your expertise to bear on the questions that do interest you. That's all; take care.</p>

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<p>I haven't read this whole thread, but by now you've probably got the message that cooling the camera below the dew point of the outside air, such as keeping it inside your air conditioned room / house / etc., during the night and then bringing it outside will cause condensation to form inside the camera. Period. This has happened to me several times, whether Hasselblad, Nikon F100 (good weather sealing), or any other camera that has glass elements in it - i.e. any camera. </p>

<p>As was mentioned, keep the camera in a plastic bag and let the temp equalize with outside air temp before removing it and you won't have this problem.</p>

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<p>Rashed, I am sorry you have had this experience with your Hasselblad, but I thank you for bringing it our attention.<br>

I have been reading with interest because I will be heading to Thailand and have been trying to decide which camera gear to take.<br>

Another experience, although not with a camera, but a tropical problem never the less, I once drove from Melbourne to Darwin and had with me my good Armstrong silver flute. The plan was to play in the valleys around the Olgas in Central Australia. However, whilst in Darwin, with temperatures above 30C and constantly raining, I noticed that the skin pads on the flute were all rotting!<br>

It makes me wonder about film emulsions in these conditions, gelatin being hygroscopic. It must surely swell and soften somewhat.</p>

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<p>Rashed, I will add that the Hasselblad body and lenses are heavy. That extra mass, while good for sharp pictures, will take longer to acclimate between temperature changes. So please allow for plenty of time for your gear to warm up to the heat and humidity. If possible, store it in a warm place where it will be secure. Good luck taking pictures. </p>
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<p>For what's worth, I've just been shooting a roll of Ektar in my 500cm this morning . It's 44 degrees here at the moment (Celsius that is) and the humidity is probably 95%... I reckon my kit will be treated to a good CLA when we eventually move somewhere a little more 'normal' :-) Must say I have had no issues with the kit despite the heat, dust, humidity yet....</p>
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<p>I'm always amazed at the attitudes of some people here. I mean, what sort of posts are valid on a forum? This place would be dead (or at the very least, boring) if it weren't for the variety of questions asked here. I have as little tolerance for the intolerant as some do for the 'ignorant', so maybe the decision of some people to no longer participate in these forums is a good one.</p>
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<p>Sorry if this is off topic, but further to Rashed's questions... I assume the condensation is particularly a problem long-term for fungus in lenses? Bodies would be relatively OK?? I must say I have often wondered how 'bad' it is shooting long-term in very humid environments. Surely regular CLA's would negate any major issues? I guess that's one of the big advantages of the Hasselblad V system - they are relatively easy to have CLA'd. Is this a fair comment?</p>
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<p>Thanks Jeff. I just read all this thread, and the Mamiya 'shit lens' had me in stitches! Rashed - I just had a look at your folio and your work is fantastic! You are going to love the Hasselblad - stick with it. I must admit I have had 'growing pains' getting comfortable with the system, but after a year it's all coming together and I couldn't be happier. You've obviously had some great advice in this thread, and I think you can be certain that the issues haven't been Hasselblad-specific! Enjoy your 503CW - surely on the finest cameras ever! Look forward to seeing your pics. I have a 500cm but one day will get that 503! ;-)</p>
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<p>dear collegues<br>

as the earth becomes more and more hostile day by day ...the good words,and smiles from few<br>

souls are the only things which tempt us to cotinue our lives here.<br>

rashid -i do realize your kindness and empathy allways you show through the postings..continue that.<br>

a good camera technician will solve your problem.best of luck.<br>

may be a slip of toungue from paul for a fraction of second may be the reason for this kind atmosphere<br>

here. thanks and regards</p>

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<p>dear collegues<br>

as the earth becomes more and more hostile day by day ...the good words,and smiles from few<br>

souls are the only things which tempt us to cotinue our lives here.<br>

rashid -i do realize your kindness and empathy allways you show through the postings..continue that.<br>

a good camera technician will solve your problem.best of luck.<br>

may be a slip of toungue from paul for a fraction of second be the reason for this kind atmosphere<br>

here. thanks and regards</p>

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<p>I note with some amusement the couple of comment re. politeness. Go have a look at http://www.arguewitheveryone.com and you will find out what rudeness truly is.</p>

<p>Anyway, I shoot in snow and humidity is something that I have to deal with on a regular basis. It is not a reflection upon the equipment but rather handling technique.</p>

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<p>Good Evening to you all my friends.</p>

<p>I thought I have seen an input to this thread from one of the friends here who is planning to have his holiday in Thailand and thought of adding few words for him although I can not see his thread any more.<br>

Thailand is a beautiful country and with very nice and polite people, the country is rich with photographic resources, people, animals ( wild life ), landscape, florals and so on.<br>

You need not to bring too much photo gears and then they be like too much load on you, a good camera and 3 lenses like 24-70, 70-200 and 300 or 400mm is most used here.<br>

A back pag is more comfortable than a shoulder bag and esay to go with you every where, a middle weight tripod is good enough.<br>

Some cleaning tissus and solvent for your camera lenses and a small tourch to guide you through the camera setting at night and a cable release with 2 or 3 graduated filters, filters like cokin will help a lot as you can leave the holder on the lens and just quickly switch to another filter.<br>

I you are a film camera user, then it is better to bring your films with for those who are in the state, the film in the state are slightly cheaper than Thailand, as I can not find films slides or B/W in my place I had to buy the films from the MBK mule in Bangkok, they have all sort of films, the shop is called Photo Thailand and they have 3 branches in the same mule, the first floar, third floar and the fourth floar .<br>

A b/w ilford 120 50asa film cost 175 Tha Bat, around 4 USA dollars.<br>

Lenses and cameras are cheaper in the state than in Thailand, for example I bought my 300MM F2.8 VR Nikon for 172000 Bat around 5500 USA dollars, while the 70200MM F2.8 VR is around 67,000 Bat, I did buy all of my stuff this time here as I will get back the VAT 7% at Bangkok air port while going back home and also I did save a lot on the shippment by Fedex of UPS if they are send to me from adorama or B&H.<br>

Pattaya Safari Park is a very nice place to go to and take wild life photos , it is around 1:30mints from the Pattaya and there are many mini buses can take you there for a full day for around 2000 Bat , and in the safari you can rent an electrical car like the golf cars to go around the place, the safari is full of all kind of animels, so you need a good photo storge, like CF cards, I had 3X16GB, 1X12GB, 1X8GB and they were not enough.<br>

Another wonderful place is the Nong Nooch garden, or the floars garden , very beautiful place and it also having a butterfly garden there.<br>

local Thai markets are every where and so the night market , there you can photo all sort of people, specially old ones.<br>

If any of the friends need a spesific inforamtions I am fully prepared to help while I am here and I will remain here till the midldle of Jan., already finished one month here today and it runs like been a week only</p>

<p>Thank you my friends again and wishing you all of the best.</p>

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