No more HC-110?

<p>I just called in to a major photographic supplier in Sydney (among other things they have a major government contract for schools etc) to pick up some more HC-110 developer. I was told that Kodak has recently ceased production and there is no more HC-110 available in Australia and elsewhere (after existing stocks are gone). Is this true? I was also told that Tri-X will be discontinued and that Kodak will only produce T-Max. Just a rumour or is there some truth in this "news"? I use Ilford products, except for HC-110.</p>

<p>Cheers, Bob</p>

<p>Did you contact Kodak?</p>

<p>Hello bob,<br>

I just visited Kodak's professional photography website. They still have HC-110 and it's replenisher listed as currently available.</p>

<p>http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/chemistry/bwFilmProcessing/hc110.jhtml?pq-path=14033</p>

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<p>be careful , what a vendor wants and what is true can be different. Perhaps in Australia there is a problem , but this rumor went around several years ago and the product is still available (in the USA, anyway).<br>

Perhaps specific sizes of various chemicals are no longer available, but that doesn't mean they are gone. For example i went to order a gallon of stop bath yesterday and they are only carring the smaller sizes. My "guy" thought the haz mat charges had a serious impact on that size . I also know that selenium is no longer available in gallon sizes but qts. are.<br>

I also asked "how is business these days" and he said they are very busy. THis was Calumet , and the film end of business.</p>

<p>They day TX is discontinued is the day the earth stands still. Products get killed (Like KC) because of lack of use. I doubt if HC110 or TX will fall victim to that soon.</p>

<p>Retailers seem to be one of the very worst sources of information about product availability.</p>

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<p>"Retailers seem to be one of the very worst sources of information about product availability."</p>

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<p>Yup, tho' some sales reps for manufacturers appear to be a very close second. I've lost count of the number of times I've read disinformation online that someone claims to have gotten straight from a manufacturer's representative.</p>

<p>Years ago I heard a Minolta rep at a local pro shop claim that Minolta had designed and manufactured Nikon's AF system and that Minolta secretly owned Nikon. I'm guessing this same guy single handedly bankrupted Minolta.</p>

<p>Anything's possible, but I don't worry too much because I have mostly switched over to Illford except for HC110 (of course). Eventually, just like the vaccuum tube, there will still be very high quality materials available from somewhere else if Kodak gives up the spirit. That being said, I don't give much credence to this report, it's probably another round of rumored panic. I can't really see Kodak shutting down HC110, but we'll all see soon enough.</p>

<p>Freestyle (Los Angeles, CA) still shows HC-110. This isn't the first time people have thought that HC-110 might be discontinued. I don't know what's available in oversas markets. In the U.S. there are some logical replacements. Freestyle sells it own version of HC-110 under the Kentmere name. DD-X doesn't have the keeping qualities of HC-110 but can give similar results. The shelf life of Clayton F60 can be extended by pourng the concentrate into smaller glass bottles. Results with F60 at 1:9 are similar to those with HC-110 Dilution B. For the more intrepid there is always PC-TEA. It's inexpensive and lasts a long time. With slow and medium speed films it works very well. I don't like it as much with faster films. </p>

<p>Nope, it's Cat. No. 1408913 HC-110 Developer Replenisher that's discontinued. Cat. No. 1408988 HC-110 is still available in the 2 gallon size.<br>

http://www.dr5.com/B_W%20and%20E_6%20Chemical%20Discontinuances%20PCN110209_AO.pdf<br>

However, if you'd like Kodak's D-76R Replenisher, Microdol-X, Selectol Soft, Farmer's Reducer, the TMAX 100 Direct Positive Developing Outfit, or 50l packages of Xtol (5l Xtol still available), you're out of luck. See the link for full details.</p>

<p>Thanks for the link Sal</p>

Your answer might be here:http:

//www.digitaltruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=610&sid=030d8936959df126dfa97e57cbc982f6

<p>The link is no good</p>

 

<p>Here it is again. You can also copy & paste.<br>

http://www.digitaltruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=610</p>

<p>Still doesn't work.</p>

<p>HC-110 Replensher is disconinued.</p>

<p>HC-110 Developer is still available.</p>

<p>http://www.dr5.com/B_W%20and%20E_6%20Chemical%20Discontinuances%20PCN110209_AO.pdf</p>

<p>Thanks Alexander. I've been using Rodinal and HC110. It would suck if HC110 developer was discontinued.</p>

<p>I would have to check out the Freestyle -110. HC-110 is my go to developer when i am not using Rodinal or Acufine... then there is my Diafine.</p>

<p>I work for an independent camera shop in Delaware. Our Kodak rep has told us that there is no truth to this rumor. HC-110 and Tri-X are doing just fine, and there should be no worry. </p>

<p>If "they" are not selling it, why would they keep making it? It's about business and profitability. Tri-X and HC-110 are some of the most successful, longest running film & developer choices. If we keep using them, Kodak will try to continue making them assuming a profitability margin exists.</p>

<p>I just got back home from my trip away - not much Internet access on the road. I finally got onto Kodak Australia - HC-110 is not longer available in this country. I contacted a couple of suppliers - they said that Kodak is a "pain in the a.." to deal with and have minimum order requirements, often leaving retailers with out of date stock. They said Ilford was much better to deal with. So much for Kodak's marketing strategy. Bummer. I like HC-110... </p>

<p>BTW I contacted Kodak USA about the availability of HC-110 in AU. They gave me the AU Kodak numbers to ring which I did. Apparently Kodak USA didn't know that HC-110 was no longer available in AU.</p>

<p>I didn't ask about Tri-X, I don't use it.</p>

<p>Cheers, Bob</p>

<p>IIRC, Ilford makes a dev that's very much like HC-110. Ilfotech HC maybe? Maybe you could find that one in Sydney.</p>

<p>You're welcome Greg. Actually, those are my two main film developers, as well. At least Rodinal lasts for decades and HC-110 lasts for many years (not nearly as long as Rodinal though, haha).</p>

<p>Hello . . . Imagine my surprise when I read Kodak's List for discontinuing many B&W and E6 developers, not just HC-110! D76, Microdol powders for 1 gallon size are also listed! WOW!<br>

If you need stuff, Photographers Formulary will gladly serve you!</p>

 

<p>Jeff Drew says: "Imagine my surprise when I read Kodak's List for discontinuing many B&W and E6 developers, not just HC-110! D76, Microdol powders for 1 gallon size are also listed!"<br>

Jeff: If you look at the column headings, you will find everything you listed in the column marked "suggested replacements"</p>