K-7 and the dreaded green line

<p>One thing about the D700 is the weight of the beast and frankly the attention it grabs. I finally did get rid of the strap that says D700 on it and ''almost'' put a fuji strap on it....But as an example. This past saturday I went on my first train / subway ride. It took me 2.5 hours to get to the beach...When I drive, I get their in 30 minutes with traffic so it was a huge difference...I was going to take the Nikon that day to document my travel but after walking to the train station, I knew it was to big and heavy, so I went back home and got my K20D with no grip and the Tokina 20-35mm lens and Tamron 28-300 super zoom....Anyway, I am almost done sorting those pictures and will post some up this evening I think. I almost got robbed as well, but I was a little too fast for the fellow...Anyway, more later...</p>

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<p>...and ''almost'' put a fuji strap on it....</p>

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<p>LOL!</p>

<p>Well, what do yall think.<br>

<a href="http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/726447-post403.html">http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/726447-post403.html</a><br>

Worth a try?</p>

<p>Couldn't hurt to give it a shot. Too bad that Pentax USA didn't tell you about that. It's almost getting to the point where we're getting better tech support from ourselves than we're getting from Pentax. Jeeze, they should make their cameras and firmware open source and then we'd really get somewhere! ;-)</p>

<p>Well, I am reading reports that the new (unofficial) firmware update has cured the green line syndrome...I just installed it and will see if i can test it at lunnch time today. I have lots of work to get get done, so i will see.</p>

<p>I hope that this firmware update is really the answer you've been looking for. This situation seems incredibly frustrating. I know that by the time I'm able to get a K-7 (at this rate...4 years lol) that the problem will be fixed. Knowing that it's a pain in the bumper makes me feel for you guys.</p>

<p>Does anybody think these models will be in place next year, this time? K20D is an unqualified winner. K7 seems a temporary place-holder, a rag-bag of "features". An Edsel.</p>

<p>An "improved" version of K20D would be a winner for both photographic and marketing reasons. Pay a little more than the K20D (maybe KEEP the current K20D in the lineup). There seem to be zero significant advantages to K7D over K20D, few over K10D.</p>

<p>How about NO MORE "FEATURES," or better, <strong>FEWER</strong> "FEATURES": RAW-only but with 3 selectable levels of automatic noise reduction, one of them precisely K20D-style, the others heavier/softer, Canon and Nikon-style? Dump the inferior sub-K20D Pentaxes, add a K20-L with magnesium frame rather than steel. Less is more, light is good. Pursue excellence (like K20D) rather than hype (K7), abandon cheap alternatives, price around 3/4 Canon 7D and Nikon D700. Cheaper, better, less Mickey Mouse.</p>

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<p>So far so good. I just took my first video ever with the k-7 inside the dyno room and then took some snaps and no more green line...I am thinking about leaving work early to get in some shooting today...With my Kids going back to school, I will not be able to go as much as I take them to school and pick them up...So yea, I will leave early today.. ;-)....Now where to go?</p>

<p>The K20D is a showstopper for me with no HD video or HDR mode. It's funny how K20D owners like to rag on the K-7 just to justify not getting one.</p>

<p>Joe, I have to disagree with your statement. I am quickly seeing and has been the consensus from others that the K20D handles noise better than the K-7. I thought I was seeing things at first and blamed my new glasses, but it seems to be true...Not a bad thing for those who are gifted at PP because the K-7 gives you more wiggle room, but for me, since I prefer J pegs and am not interested in Video, the K20D would suit me just fine.</p>

<h3 >K20 could never do this - Thanks K7:</h3>

<p>http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=32892219</p>

<p><strong> K-7 iso 3200 images at the Airforce Museum:</strong><br>

http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/71692-k-7-iso-3200-images-airforce-museum-double-post.html</p>

<p>Joe, You obviously have not seen what Justin or Mis have done <strong>with a K10D...</strong></p>

<p>now where are those hockey and concert images? ;-)</p>

<p>Javier, that first post Joe linked to is referring to the AF assist lamp, which is certainly one of the K-7 features I'm looking forward to. As to the ISO3200 pics, they look good, which I would expect given it's a 2nd generation sensor, although I'm sure the K20D can pull it off too.</p>

<p>And here's a concert pic for you, but only because you asked, Javier :-)</p>

<p align="center"><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/Miserere/VivianDarkbloomGreatScott13July2009#5364738145534692690"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_i6tc3TCyOTA/SnNg63WVTVI/AAAAAAAACdk/d8FR2M2LrJ4/s640/IMGP5283%20copy.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="428" /> </a></p>

<p>Well, that firmware upgrade fixed it, so I am a happy camper. Some of my test shots from today. EXIF should all be there.<br>

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<p>Javier, can you adopt me? And when you do, can you let me borrow your K-7 and take me on photowalks? Every day? Every. Single, Day?</p>

<p>I just love photographing Japanese tourists.</p>

<p >Joe Ogiba , Sep 02, 2009; 04:27 p.m.</p>

 

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<p>The K20D is a showstopper for me with no HD video or HDR mode. It's funny how K20D owners like to rag on the K-7 just to justify not getting one.</p>

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<p>Joe, Having re-read your statement here, I don't know what I was reading yesterday. Brain fade on my part and I apologize for that. In many ways you are correct. There is allot of K-7 bashing going on by many folks who do NOT own a K-7 and that I do not understand..The bashing is not going on here, but at PF and a few others.</p>

 

<p>I guess you missed the following comments in this thread:</p>

<blockquote>"K20D is an unqualified winner. K7 seems a temporary place-holder, a rag-bag of "features". An Edsel."</blockquote>

<blockquote>"There seem to be zero significant advantages to K7D over K20D, few over K10D."</blockquote>

<p>So you didn't send the camera in Javier??</p>

<p>Nope, never sent it in. I am now glad I did not for they would still be trying to fix it. lol</p>

<p>I will wait for 1.02 firmware since the green line has not shown up in photos I have shot lately. I still have the original 1.00 firmware.</p>