I've just seen the future...?

<p>William W.,</p>

<p>in case you were thinking <strong>my</strong> post assumed anything about quality, being related to the particlular users of these P&S's, it was nothing to do with it. That was your assumption.<br>

My comment relates only to the tool and its ability to produce something. Technically. Just to clarify.</p>

<p>Hi David, <br>

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No. I made no assumption nor comment in regard to your post. <br>

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I was only giving an opinion the comments I quoted from, and when I did not quote someone, I was referring to Betty's comments directly above mine, alone.<br>

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WW</p>

<p>Ah yes. I see where you're coming from...</p>

<p>I have a new idea! Seven photographers with g10s. Cutting edge.</p>

<p>Michael</p>

<p>I am closing up shop......... someone just came up with 12 sketch artists with #2 pencils. Beat me to it again.</p>

<p>Michael</p>

<p>Basically, this has been happening for quite some time now ... by guests. 50 people shooting the wedding, and getting some keepers that are given to the B&G. How many times have you stood there while a bunch of people lean out in the aisle to shoot the processionals, or how many arms are raised with tilt-out screen cameras to shoot the cake cutting, or popping away during the first dance? All this does is formalize that phenomena and squeaks out some cash for doing it.</p>

<p>Besides the trend in journalism mentioned, it is also a trend in commercial photography to use P&S for a daring sense of realism and unadorned innocence. My original mentor in NYC has done a number of spread magazine "lifestyle" campaigns with a tiny Casio P&S camera.</p>

<p>Now the real trick would be to shoot a $3K or 4K wedding with these cameras ... think of how your equipment costs would plummet ... LOL!</p>

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<p>Yet again . . . I am at a loss as to how you can come to this conclusion or comparison:</p>

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<p>Well, to me this is just one side of a downtrend.<br>

When my grandfather got married, the photographer came with a view camera. When my father got married, the photographer used medium format film. When I got married, my wedding was shot on 35 mm and professional equipment. Now I see entry level DSRs and 10x consumer zooms and I hear of digital P&S coming into the arena.<br>

The other side of the trend, the one I was referring to, concerns the photographer. If I look to the same trend from the point of view of the photgrapher, I can see that with modern technology, less and less skill is needed to cover the basic of a marriage, basically opening the door to the students willing to make 100$ and get a free lunch, that I was mentioning before.<br>

Now in this specific example I don't know who will be behind the P&S. I am sure that six masters with P&S will cover any marriage better than six students with top of the line DSRL, flashgun and lenses, but on the other side I cannot not combine the two trends in a single one and expect, sooner or later, to see the combination of low skilled photographers and P&S into the entry level market of wedding photography.<br>

But, well, my friend long time photographer thought he'd seem the bottom when wedding photographers started using 35-mm SRLs instead of medium format.</p>

<p>So the same folks who joke about "Uncle Bob and his D90" will also joke about "Aunt Jane and her P&S". Wow - I guess there's no pleasing you folks, huh? :-)</p>

<p>I would say that 2 shooters seems like a good idea for a major, non-repeatable life event, and is probably the norm at the higher end.<br>

I have a Nikon P5100 which I would use as a backup but not as primary because it doesn't focus quickly enough. G9/10 is probably better on focusing, but it still has the small chip.<br>

The next step up is something like the Canon Xsi. If you haven't looked at it you may find it interesting. The IS kit lens tests very well and it is almost weightless. I might prefer to carry two of those rather than one D1...<br>

The instant feedback from digital certainly makes it easier for people with talent to get up to speed faster. It won't substitute for talent.<br>

In today's world we all need to try to get some business from the high end, and charge correctly for it. Otherwise we are just working our way out of business.</p>

<p>I hate to hurt some of you guys feelings, but photography has lost its art & skill. Weddings have really been affected too. Seems like instead of 100-300 of carefully posed & lit photographs, it is now 1000-2000+ shots of everything from cups, pens, socks, to grandmother's teeth !! then they are photoshopped to death ! 25 years from now the bride will want to see a pic of her & her passed away grandparents or even parents, not some shot of her fingernails manupliated with wierd colors. Weddings are the bride & grooms day, not a opportunity for a photo contest. Grant it, some days I really wished I had a second shooter, ( do have a poser, she does not shoot, she is good looking,), but I do not know if I could trust them. 6 photographers, how much does he charge ? how much does he pay each photographer ? $500 ea ? gee, I will shoot for him !!</p>

<p>G Cottis - love that... "a poser"! I need a "poser" myself. As I 'mature', I really need a little more "bling" in my stage presence.</p>

<p>I don't think so, because the point and shoots, though they may have much larger sensors, do not have the in camera processing, durability, start up and shutter response, and viewfinder size that pros need. No pro wedding photog who shoots candids etc looks at the lcd to compose or adjust.<br>

My people typically take 3000 shots of a wedding, and they do that twice a week....a point and shoot will not do it.</p>

<p>Hmmmmm....interesting. I won't feel as bad when I introduce my concept of shooting a complete wedding from my car with a Canon 1200 5.6</p>

<p>Might work great, but one rule would have to apply if I were the prime wedding photog with the DSLR. No other photogs near me or shooting what I appear to be shooting while I am shooting it. Simple rule, easy to follow.</p>

<p>Otherwise, too distracting to the wedding party as to which camera to look at, problems with other flashes going off at the wrong time from the wrong angles, etc. Quality photos come from some thoughtful flash lighting from the the proper bounce angle, in the right amount, and having the subjects listening to instructions and being somewhat focused (other than pure actions shots). Maybe this is old fashioned.</p>

<p>Other shots done by the p&s photogs can be fun table or dance shots, etc. that the prime photog does not have time to do.</p>