uncle bob's pictures in YOUR albums?

<p>Hi,<br>

I had a wedding where uncle bob's was giving me instructions and taking pictures in my back non-stop.<br>

The results is that we don't see him on group and family shots...<br>

The bride told me that she wants to include a few pictures from bob in their digital album.<br>

As bob's pictures are poor quality and without real interest (except the one he took with his wife in front of the mirror - the only pictures where bob and wife are present).<br>

Its very disturbing for me to put such pictures in my clients album... but the bride really wants...<br>

Should I accept to put these pictures and have a happy bride or refuse and risk to get in trouble with bob's clan ?<br>

Do you have such remarks in your contract like "other pictues than mine won't be included in the album" to avoid this kind of things or you don't really care about this and put your name on such pictures ? <br>

Thanks for your help.<br>

Regards,<br>

Mike</p>

<p>I don't have a clause specifically for that but it's never happened to me yet, either. There are so many things that can come up that it is nearly impossible to try to cover them all.</p>

<p>That being said I do have a shot list provided by the clients and I ask them to provide me with a contact whose job it is to point out these people (it's a great role for the Uncle Bob person!). ALong with that comes two provisions: if they don't list it, I don't guarantee getting it and if they don't provide me with a person to ensure I kow who the people are, I don't guarantee getting it.</p>

<p>So, that's my advice for the future. What to do now?</p>

<p>I would still keep it out of the album of pictures I shot but... there are companies out there that produce really nice "coffee table" books in a variety of sizes and they're not too expensive. (MyPublisher, Asuka, Mpix, etc.). If you want to keep the bride happy (and possibly get referrals), offer to put together an album made specifically from picture that Uncle Bob (and other family members) took.</p>

<p>Like I said, they're not expensive and you can use one of the companies' templates to do the layout, so you should have it done in about 10 minutes. Offer it to the couple at your cost or, if it was a large dollar wedding and you really want to keep them happy, offer it as a wedding gift.</p>

<p>You can keep other images out of the main album while keeping them happy.</p>

<p>Good luck</p>

<p>Mike -</p>

<p>I don't have that language in my contract - however very few of my brides are looking for or request albums. They perfer to have digital images that they can use to create their own books on Blurb or Mpix.</p>

<p>So - If a client asked me to create an album and throw in a few of "their" photos - I don't know that I'd have a problem with that. However, if the images were obviously poor quality I'd a) point that out to the bride / groom, b) make sure that they were marked as "contributed / non - paid photographer images" or c) take my name off of the book.</p>

<p>As for Bob and wife missing the group photos - I make double sure with the bride before I shot a shot (group) if everyone she wants is in the photo.</p>

<p>Dave</p>

 

<p>You wouldn't bring your own steak into a restaurant and ask them to cook it and serve it to you, would you?<br>

To me it's the same thing when a customer asks to have someone elses photos put in an album I produce. It's only happened to me once, I was almost going to do it because the couples parents were friends of mine but after seeing the poor quality of their files I wouldn't do it.<br>

If it ever happens again there is no question that I'll flat out refuse to do it.</p>

<p>I currently don't have a clause in my contract to cover this type of request but I will now modify my contract to do so.</p>

<p>Jim </p>

<p>Maybe put a "courtesy of Bob" caption below each of the interloper's images? That should make it clear it's not part of your work.</p>

<p>I just had another thought - that's two in a day and that's normally my weekly quota!</p>

<p>If you're doing a printed album, at the back, create a title page and call it "Guest's Candids" and then put UB's pictures (and anyone elses that the couple likes) behnd the title page. It showcases your work first, includes the family pictures in the "official" album, removes any risk of people thinking it is your work, and the couple is ecstatic because you met one of their requests.</p>

<p>Mike,<br>

It is hard to upset any cliente in this economic climate. Like Rob said I had done. I did my album with my photos and then included some of the photos the Bride "Had to Have!" after a page break that read from the eyes of family and friends.<br>

Good Luck.</p>

<p>First off, I do see where you are coming from. But let me play devil's advocate for a minute.</p>

<p>Look at it this way, who's wedding is this? Is it yours? Of course not. If the bride wants to remember her wedding with Uncle Bob's images in the album, you should let her. In <strong>your</strong> wedding album you can put whatever images you want.</p>

<p>I don't have that language in my contract, nor would I put it there. I have put guest images into albums I make for my clients. As Josh says, "Whose wedding is it?" I allow that I can't be everywhere at once and that once in a while, a guest might actually take a good image, or at least an image where the subjects look good enough for the bride to want the image in her album. In your case, if the images are of such poor quality, I don't think you have to worry about viewers thinking you produce poor work. It will be obvious that you didn't shoot the images. I would opt for 'happy bride'.</p>

<p>have never happend to me before...but, it is bride's album, she puts what she'd like to have on the album and pictures she feels most important to her. It is her going to see the album all the time, not you. So, if she requests a "must", I will put uncle bob's image. <br>

If you are working on your sample album for you studio from this wedding, you could put whatever pictures you like to present ;)</p>

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<p>I like the idea of possibly having that special section if needed that is labeled as such. but the images would definitely need to be of good enough quality to be included in the book, otherwise I would guide them not to use them in the album.</p>

<p>If you really want to keep bride happy you may suggest to her the next job you are doing have "Uncle (pain in the as.) Bob" stop by before you start the job and you'll should be able to take a photo of him to put in the album that will look like it belongs.<br>

Good luck,<br>

Mel</p>

<p>I've been asked and I say "nope".<br>

I hand over files, so I just politely say, "please make you own album with anyone's photos you want."</p>

<p>Thank you for your answers. I will pick up a bit of all, I think<br>

-Make a break in the album and include bob's pictures seems a good idea to me.<br>

-Maybe add some text in my next contract to avoid such situation<br>

Thanks a lot lot lot for your help. Having diffrents point of view is great help for me !<br>

bye <br>

Mike </p>

<p>I don't think the language in your contract is going to help. If the language was in the contract already, and the bride still REALLY asked and REALLY wanted Bob's photos, you would be in a similar dilmena.<br>

Pointing to the terms of the contract isn't much different from a "pleasing the customer" standpoint than any other way of politely saying "no."<br>

Say his photos are below acceptable industry standards on resolution, focus, and lighting to be use in the album.</p>