Panoramic Advice on 617 Camera Required Please.

<p>Hi Christos<br>

I didn't have any filter holders or filters, other than the center spot nd filter which is the correct filter for the lens.<br>

I have had a close look at the film for wind on rubbing or scrapes, but there are no visible signs of scratches in the emulsion or the film base. I would have expected to have seen some if this is the cause.<br>

617 is a hard format to use and I don't want to lose any off the top or the bottom when scanning.<br>

What scanner do you use to scan yours?</p>

<p>Hi Jamie.<br>

I suspected about scraches on the slide, becouse the nature of these bandings (at least mines) are like very thin lines of burned area and between them there is some information.<br>

From an older experience from a RZ 67 PROII that light entered in the back throught the crack of the darkslide, the nature of that banding was very different, vertical like fog.<br>

Here there are fine and precise limits nothing like fog.<br>

I believe that if the light pass inside the back from somewhere, these areas of the slide will be burned like fog.<br>

As you see i can do only suppositions.<br>

Maybe we must send an email to the dealer to ask what we have to do for solving this inconveniences.<br>

But i believe that something going wrong with these backs.<br>

Other problems that i had with this back is that when i wind fast the film at the begining, this was cuted, and sometimes was blocked the cover and was impossible to open it (i ever carry with me a set of fine screwdrivers and i unscrewed the two screws of one side that keeps the hook in site for open it).<br>

I don"t know if you have had similar experience but be carefull when you wind a new roll, to do it slowlly until to see the number three on to the back"s window.<br>

After this, there is no problem.<br>

And when you open the cover of the back you must pull it with the same way both sides simultaneously becouse the metal alloy is very soft and is possible distort one of the two back's hooks that keeps the cover.<br>

If it will be happen, opening the back will be impossible.<br>

One my thought was to buy the horseman back that use the Ebony 617S camera if it is possible to buy just the back and if it fits right on the Shen Hao (i thing that is very possible).<br>

Solving the problem of these bandings unfortunally not solves all the other problems.<br>

Exept the shen hao 617 i used more than one year, three same Gaoersi 617 cameras (the shift model with interchangeable back) and the quality of all these three backs was far better than this shen hao.<br>

About how i scan, i have allready answered you (before to asked it) yesterday, to your other question that you have posted in this site.</p>

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<p>Apparently an Epson V700 is the best tool for the job..without spending heaps. I still think you are getting light bouncing off the edges of your film gate. My early attempts at building a 6x17 camera resulted in exactly the same thing happening. The reason was twofold: Firstly the metal edge was too thick (4mm) and the coating I used was too reflective. You would be very surprised as to how much light enters the camera when you fire the shutter, even at night and especially with longer exposures, even the film itself is quite reflective. I'm sure if you're careful and use a fine brush, you could paint only the edges. If you're worried about getting paint all over the place simply mask it up with tape first.</p>

<p>Hi, Jamie,<br>

May I ask...do you notice the light banding appearing anywhere other than just close to the edges of the ground glass and the image? Also....I had read that the Shen Hao 617 ground glass is larger than 6x17 anyway...so does this light banding appear anywhere in the processed 617 film, other than just near the outer edges? Or is the banding so bright as to affect the entire image?<br>

I just purchased and received the Shen Hao 617, so I'm wanting to plan ahead...if possible.<br>

Thank you!<br>

Robt.</p>

<p>Hi Robert.<br>

Welcome to the club!!!</p>

<p>Hi Guys</p>

<p>I will try and answer all questions in on go<br>

I am going to collect the second test roll of film on monday, this roll was a quick shot taken in the back garden, just to see if it suffers the same issues. I will let you know the results.</p>

<p>Dean, I agree with some of your comments, but don't see why I should be doing this with a brand new camera. It should be fit for purpose (Under the UK sale and Supply of goods Act). </p>

<p>Robert, There is darker banding on the left and right edges and a light band running along the top of the image (All on the film). It is impossible to see this on the ground glass screen due to difficulties in using the camera in the first place.<br>

You can see the result of the first roll of film in the pictures here: Link: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jamiejonesphoto.com/Site/ShenHao617Problem.html" target="_blank">http://www.jamiejonesphoto.com/Site/ShenHao617Problem.html</a><br>

I will let you know how the second roll of film comes out on monday. </p>

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<p><img src="3228692" alt="" />Jamie here there are some my photos from this camera croped up and down, scanned with Nikon Coolscan 9000ED.</p>

<p>Sorry.<br>

I failed before to insert the photos.</p>

<p>Jamie, I think your problem might be related to the fact that you're shooting a nightscape pic. In the night any cameras, especially view cameras, will be more prone to flare from lights.</p>

<p>Christos, I see you have shot wonderful pics with the Shen Hao 617! Thanks for sharing your results. You mentioned earlier in this thread that Shen Hao 617 is a bad copy of Ebony 617S and its aluminum alloy is "very soft". Have you actually handled the Ebony 617S and compared these two cameras? What do you think of the rigidity of Shen Hao TFC617A? If the aluminum is soft I guess rigidity will be affected especially at long extension (say, using a 300mm lens). You seem not happy with Shen Hao TFC-617A's quality, but your pics from that camera are in fact wonderful!</p>