s_u Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Oh, one additional point. I heartily agree with Mr. Ross' views. It's a trifle tacky to condemn anyone who joins the digital vs. film dispute as if they were "non-photographers," just testy persons with an ax to grind who enjoy arguing for arguing's sake. That is not the case with me or, I'm certain, many other thoughtful persons. But as I indicate above, the motive is at least partly clear. Mustn't offend the sellers of digital ware. What happens to revenue if they decide to invest ad budget elsewhere? Poor Mr. Spirer and company could go to bed hungry tonight unless that revenue keeps pouring in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike dixon Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 <i>I wonder why you are posting in a "vs" thread when you have such low opinions of the photographers that do post in a thread of this nature.</i><P> This is not a "film vs. digital" thread; this is a thread about the need (or lack thereof) for a particular new forum on photo.net. I suppose moderators and admins could completely ignore such threads instead of trying to explain the rationale for not having such a forum; it would certainly save us time.<P> <i>I expect even the "Film and Processing" forum to disappear from here ere long. Take a careful look at the ads that pop up on this site these days. The Big Three who imposed digital on the world, plus innumerable other purveyors of digital product (regardless of how obscure its uses). As in other contexts, he who has the gold makes the rule. Somebody has to pay Messrs. Spirer and Root, after all, and fatten Mr. Greenspun's no doubt bulging coffers. </i><P> There are three forums on photo.net devoted entirely to film, a couple more devoted entirely to film cameras, and many more where film and film cameras are also discussed. Photo.net has never done anything to discourage the use of film or the discussion of issues related to film. Refusing to devote an entire forum to general discussions of film vs. digital is certainly no indication that photo.net is "anti-film."<P> The moderators at photo.net are unpaid volunteers. If photo.net ceased to exist tomorrow, it would have no effect on my income, though it would increase the amount of free time I have. The paid staff at photo.net spend most of their time keeping the site up and running and trying to improve the site's features. Considering Josh Root has contributed <a href="http://www.photo.net/columns/joshroot/filmtown/2008/november/holga-kodak-BW400CN">the first article</a> in new series about film cameras, it's ridiculous to accuse him of an anti-film bias. The idea that photo.net is generating huge sums of money for anyone is pretty funny; it's certainly not making money for Phil Greenspun, who hasn't been involved with photo.net for some time.<P> Mr. Usary, note that, while you've had plenty to say about the "yahoos" who spoil film vs. digital debates, your posts in this thread are filled with insults, inaccurate and negative characterization of the site's goals, negative insinuations about other people's motives, etc. In other words, you've provided an excellent demonstration of exactly the kind of behavior that makes most "film vs. digital" threads worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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