Nikon D700, $300 Rebate

"the whole point of owning a d700 is the CURRENT pixel count"

 

Not to some others. For them it's the fullframe advantage...

 

If one only has DX lenses then I don't think he/she should move to D700 unless he/she wants to sell all the lens and upgrade to FF (Get D300 or wait for new DX camera)

<i>Not to some others. For them it's the fullframe advantage...</i>

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Right, full frame at 12 MP.

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<i>If one only has DX lenses</i>

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Obviously, FX shouldn't be used with DX lenses - defeats the purpose of the whole thing.

Wrong, the D700 does not deliver better image quality than the D300. I want to upgrade from my D300, not just get a full-frame version. The current pixel count of the D300 is identical to the D700.

 

I'll say it again. When Nikon releases the D700x (or D800) with 24 megapixels, I'll consider it for $2500. For me there is no such thing as a "full-frame advantage" as my DX lenses and MF primes do very well for me.

"I'll say it again. When Nikon releases the D700x (or D800) with 24 megapixels, I'll consider it for $2500. For me there is no such thing as a "full-frame advantage" as my DX lenses and MF primes do very well for me."

 

For you it is but for others who want ultra ultra wide like using the 14-24mm at 14mm range (or even wider lenses) then FF is the way to go (okay, you can step back and take the pic...).

 

"Wrong, the D700 does not deliver better image quality than the D300. I want to upgrade from my D300, not just get a full-frame version. The current pixel count of the D300 is identical to the D700."

 

Cleaner pics at high ISO is where D700 shines over D300. I think image quality is similar (as far as I can tell).

<i>the D700 does not deliver better image quality than the D300.</i>

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Generalizations like that aren't helpful.

"In the recent past, Nikon has gone to a "rebate" to reduce inventory in expectation of a "new" model soon to be

on the marketplace"

 

Ever notice that at certain times of the year there are these 50-70% "Sales"? Nothing to do with reducing

inventories, etc...

 

It's all a marketing game. Start with whatever you can get away with, then rebate, and then leak out "new model

on the way".

 

Since we are all getting ahead of ourselves, I'm going to suggest that the next "Big" news from Nikon is going to

be MX.

 

The only way that Nikon can truly leap-frog Canon is with something really daring.

The D700 just came out a few months ago. I wouldn't expect a replacement at least in a year, and that's probably first to

the D3, and 6-12 months later, for the D700. I think MX is just fictitious as Nikon isn't able to keep their lens line even

moderately up to date for DX and FX; creating an entirely new lens line is a strange thought.

Dave: the D700 does not deliver better image quality than the D300.

 

Ilkka: Generalizations like that aren't helpful.

 

Me: Nor are they accurate.

Folks, we are getting way ahead of ourselves as well as off topic.

 

I tried my contacts at Nikon USA, but apparently they are attending the Photo + Expo in New York City, and so are some people from photo.net headquarters. I probably won't get any answer until next week.

 

B&H is showing the $300 instant rebate, but that is off the original $2999 price, making it the same $2700 we have been seeing from various stores.

"Cleaner pics at high ISO is where D700 shines over D300"

 

that was my point. yes there are options with double the resolution at similar (or less) price points but it is the high iso performance that

defines the d700. one might argue that it is a result of the current resolution.

Henrys in Toronto is still selling the D700 for C$3299.00.

Plus the 13 percent sales tax.

 

My local retailer here in Burlington knows of no discount

from Nikon Canada.

 

And they were quick to note we in Canada rarely if ever

see discounted prices, the market here is just way too small.

 

Though the D700 is digital as it was meant to be,

film for me is still preferable.

 

My D40 and 16-85 VR lense is all I require for digital.

 

The D700 FX for Nikon is the first horse away from the

start;

there will be others, and at a lesser price over time

no doubt.

Many of us lesser peoples can wait.

The rebate as currently presented is very confusing. Many online vendors like B&H and Amazon have increased prices while rolling it out thus negating the discount and suggesting that prices will go up when it expires. Others have added the discount in on their old price.

 

Plenty of retailers have listings that make it appear the discounted price is somewhere around $2700, then really do apply the discount once you put the item into your cart. (Costco, for instance.)

 

The lowest price I can find is Abe's of Maine, who strangely, only give you $250 of the $300 discount, yet still have the best (tha tI have found) final price I found: $2499. (Significantly, I wouldn't pay sales tax on this. A Costco purchase would add $250 for me.)

 

My bet as to what is going on is this: Nikon is looking to clear a backlog of inventory. Purchases have slowed dramatically over the past month and they need warehouse space in the short term just to handle already-produced and shipped inventory. Production will drop after this month, and prices will go up in order to make up for the greater than 10% erosion in the dollar against the yen.

 

Speaking of clearing inventory, I'm going to have to sell some lenses pronto if I want to keep sleeping in my bed, as I just ordered one.

Wait. This is a brief marketing ploy (US$2750+$250-$300=$2700), the price will drop another $250 very soon.

 

The way the world financial and credit markets are collapsing, I think we will see some real bargains on Nikon stuff real soon.

Berger Bros is also showing $2499:

http://www.berger-bros.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=BBCVD&Product_Code=Nikon_D700&Product_Count=&Category_Code=

 

Essentially, before this Nikon rebate, various stores were selling the D700 for about $2700.

But there isn't exactly another $300 off that with the rebate. The final price varies from $2500 to $2700. I have seen some prices doing down and then coming back up a bit. It is confusing.

 

I am sure the recession and therefore lack of demand has something to do with it. The US$ has also dropped to some 94 yen today, a 13-year-low. Recall that about a month ago Rene and I were talking about 106 yen per dollar.

I am sure Nikon is getting squeezed and so are its competitors.

Essentially, the stores (e.g. B&H) are pocketing all or part of the rebate.

Amazon's sales must be run by someone with a mean sense of humor. A few days ago, after weeks of going for $2759,

the D700 was priced at $2688. Then, last night I saw it going for $2519.93 (I wrote it down). Now, it's back up at $2679.

 

I won't wait for a rebate. I'll wait for the wild Christmas sales. On Dec 10, I'll click on the "Place your order" button and

won't look back.

 

Of course, I'll take a look at the Nikon site in search of downloadable rebates. If there are none... well, it wasn't meant to.

 

Thanks for the discussion!

The camera stores were giving up part of their (extra) profit when the price initially dropped from the original $3000, and that profit reduction was completely expected. Now Nikon is giving a $300 rebate, the stores are trying to re-gain some of that profit they gave up, at least for a while. When there are not sufficient buyers who are willing to pay $2500 for a D700, the price will drop further again.

 

The fluctuations we observe in the last day or so is likely the result that the stores are trying to feel one another out and determine where the current market price is.

We are in the middle of a world wide recession. Many who live in NYC and had lots of cash have lost jobs on wall street and main street is worried and the whole retail sector is down by 25% or more. I feel honored to be in the company of the rich here who are seemingly immune to the facts on the ground most others know as the reality. 401k's are 201K's and every day the Dow keeps going down. I suggest that the reason prices are dropping are not only stiff Canon and to a lessor extent Sony but to the deferment of non essential purchases of want to have versus need to have items. Meanwhile having to carry inventory is expensive and Camera companies wants to keep product moving in stead of layoffs until times get better.

I certainly don't mean to insult anyone's intelligence, BUT I have to say having come from a D300 to a D700 there is NO question it DOES provide a superior image all around to a D300. Better white balance, better low noise performance even at low ISO (I've seen this in my own images so yeah...there's NO question about it), and greater depth of field via the FF sensor (nature of the beast do your homework). That's not to say the D300 is any slouch....no way! But once you've worked with a D700 for a bit you get a bit more spoiled. There was sky noise using the D300 even at lower ISO's where in the D700 it's flat NOT there. I prefer the color output as well. As for resolution I now find the 70-300vr and Tamron 28-300VC gained a entirely NEW life. Sharp at the corners wide open (unlike on the D300's body) and I have no vignetting issues as some might think. All in all there truly is no question of the differences. I have no problems having given up the so called "crop tele view" thing. I'll take FF any day thanks. As for 23mb sensor files......I'll pass. I never print larger than 13x19 and that's rare for me. I have no compelling reason for the added resolution. I've done weddings as well with no complaints. Some just feel "more the better". For some that may be true. I don't need posters however thanks.....to each his own.....

"Francisco Solares-Larrave [Frequent poster] , Oct 24, 2008; 06:19 p.m.

 

Amazon's sales must be run by someone with a mean sense of humor. A few days ago, after weeks of going for $2759, the D700 was priced at $2688. Then, last night I saw it going for $2519.93 (I wrote it down). Now, it's back up at $2679.

 

I won't wait for a rebate. I'll wait for the wild Christmas sales. On Dec 10, I'll click on the "Place your order" button and won't look back.

 

Of course, I'll take a look at the Nikon site in search of downloadable rebates. If there are none... well, it wasn't meant to.

 

Thanks for the discussion!"

 

 

Actually, I just ordered one from Amazon today for $2520. I used their store card to buy it, which means I can pay it off in installments for 12 months with no interest.

"I feel honored to be in the company of the rich here who are seemingly immune to the facts on the ground most others know as the reality. 401k's are 201K's and every day the Dow keeps going down."

 

My 401(k) is down so much that the D700 seems like a trivial expense. It's a good thing that I don't plan to retire for another 20 years.

Good for you, Fred! Please, post back. I cannot order mine right now, but I will stick to my schedule.

$2500 for a D700 is 19.5K HK$. That's a pretty good deal chaps not far off what I paid for a D300 in Feb. I can't get one that cheap in HK.

A Nikon D10 introduction would also call for readjustment of the price of a D700.

I've been following the D700 prices at B&H and Cameta. B&H raised their price to completely wash out the rebate and Cameta is not reducing their price by 1 cent with rebate on their $2569 ebay offers. I've considered getting my first nikon body, D700 due to 14-24mm 2.8 reviews, but this instant rebate scheme nikon offers instantly rewards the sellers. I'll keep checking the D700 price because for $2,250 out of my pocket D700 would be impossible to pass up.