anthonybagileo Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Im new to speedlites. I understand channels and ratios. I use (2) 430ex and (1) 580EX , along with the wireless transmitter. Im having difficulty understand the manual zoom ranges. im trying to set up a basic three flash shoot. I was under the impression that i would not have to manually set any zoom. the field guide im reading tells me i have to set the zoom on each flash. is that true? what do you do if your using a lens outside the maximum 105 mm maximum coverage. If someone has the time to give me a real world readers digest version of how the zoom function works on the speedlite it would help me alot. i think im making this more difficult than it really is. thanks Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles_Webster Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Check out Chuck Gardner's tutorials on Canon speedlights here at http://super.nova.org/DPR/ <Chas> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Laur Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 The zoom setting on a speedlight is expressed in millimeters, typically so that it will correspond to the field of view that a lens of that same focal length will have when used on a traditional 35mm ("full-frame") camera. So, if you put a 50mm lens on a full-frame DSLR or SLR, you'll see a certain angle of view, and you'd want your strobe (when mounted on the camera) to throw light in a pattern that roughly matches that field of view. <br><br> When you put that same lens on a cropped-sensor camera (one with the APS-C-format sensor more commonly used by most people at this point), the effective field of view is reduced. That 50mm lens is giving you the field of view more traditionally associated with a 75mm lens. So, your speedlight - if it's set to 50mm - is throwing away a lot of its energy lighting up areas that won't even be captured by the camera. Some newer devices (like Nikon's SB-900) are aware of what sort of camera they're on, and compensate for the sensor size as they do the math. <br><br> Why does this matter, when you're talking about using - as you are - your speedlights off-camera? Because it once you understand the field of view issue, you understand how to set your strobe's zoom value to create a puddle of light that's big enough to do the job, but not so wide that you're wasting battery power. Especially when you're needing all the light you can get for a given situation, the tighter the zoom (seen as a higher mm number), the more efficiently it's throwing light into a given area. <br><br> If you have a zoom lens, you can actually do some simple predictive tests: stand with your camera in the position where you'll be placing the strobe, and look at the field of view... zoom the lens so that you're seeing the bounded area where you actually want the light to fall, and make note of the focal length. You can use that as a guide for the zoom setting on the strobe. Keep in mind that the strobe things in full-frame fields of view... so if you're using a cropped sensor camera, a 50mm field of view would equal a 30mm soom zetting on the strobe, etc. <br><br> Or, you can use a very wide angle lens, and shoot pictures of a big wall... and do a little experimenting. Set the speedlight to various zoom positions, and move it back and forth from the wall as you trigger it. You'll see a distinct pattern on the wall (sort of like shining your car headlights on the side of a barn). That will help you develope a solid gut sense of how the speedlight casts light at various zoom settings. <br><br> Lastly: much of this thinking goes out the window if you're using light modifiers (umbrellas, reflectors, softboxes, snoots, etc). The optimal zoom setting on the speedlight is then driven by how you want the light modifier to catch and modify the light. If you're using a speedlight-friendly softbox (say, one of Lastolite's EzyBoxes), you'll probably want the speedlight set to its widest possible setting, to make the light as even as possible. Bouncing out of umbrellas, or off of a flat reflector, may NOT call for the widest setting, if you're trying to constrain the spill just a bit. That's something you need to play with. <br><br> To reiterate: if you're using your strobes off camera, the precise match between the focal length of your lens and the strobe's zoom setting really doesn't matter. You're using your strobes to cast a pattern of light, and deciding how tight or wide that pattern should be is a matter of creative choice and practicality. There's no point throwing a pattern so wide that the camera will never see some of it, but too-narrow a pattern can cause light to fall off on parts of your subject. Once you're off-camera, the actual measurement in mm isn't really worth fussing about... it's all about what that pattern actually looks like in the end results... adjust to taste! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevan_goddard Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 I'm assuming you will be using light modifiers for the shot (umbrellas / soft boxes). The zoom function and light modifiers have polar opposite functions: the first is to narrow / concentrate the light beam so that on a bare flash you can evenly illuminate objects further away; whilst the second is to produce as large a light source as possible - for wrap around and softness. If you use a light modifier and the zoom facility together, this will have the effect of only illuminating a percentage of the light modifier - which defeats the reason for using a light modifier in the first place - producing as large a light source as possible (unless there are special effects you are looking for). I set my SB800s as wide as possible when using an umbrella - in fact I leave the diffusion dome on the SBs which automatically sets the zoom to 14mm - nice wide beam (at the expense of distance) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_sirota1 Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 It only makes sense for the flash to match the lens if it's mounted on the camera and firing straight ahead. Otherwise, you have to use your brain. :-) You should set the zoom to cover the angle you need it to cover. For example, if you're firing a flash into an umbrella, you want it to cover the umbrella with minimum spill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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