Got To Shoot D700 Today

Maybe it's just my imagination, but of all the photos posted here, the ones from the D700 are the least superior.

Marc, you need to put things into perspective. Joseph was inside B&H, grab the D700 and fired off a few snap shots to check out the high ISO results. Nobody should be surprised that those are not master pieces.

 

I know it was B&H because I recognize those green vests B&H people wear.

Completely agree Shun. I wasn't trying too upstage Joseph's quick grab inside B&H, and I appreciate his sharing of it here. As

such it is a great shot. I like it, as well as others I've seen on various sites from the D700 so far. I simply wanted to show that

the D300 was far from incapable of producing a desired DOF. As Ilkka has pointed out, the D700 offers many advantages for

D300 owners who are not limited to certain types of shooting. And pros with a D700 & D300 as backup won't be limited to a

6mp crop(D3).

Bill Keane: "Geez, I still thnk my D200 is phenomenal.."

 

Me too! I still struggle to squeeze from it the high quality it can deliver. But when I succeed, then I am glad I have such a good camera.

I have to agree with people who say the DX size sensors make images look flat, I had only ever shot fashion digitally on Dx sensors and always wondered why they looked so 2 dimensional and fake until i used a phase one, all of a sudden everything looked 3D and the skin tones near perfect and this is with no post processing, but even the phase falls short of the tonal range of a good portrait film.

Alot of fashion photographers in London shoot neg film then hand print and finally scan the print, the fact that they are going to that amount of work says digital still has a way to go.

heres what i mean, this was shot on a olypus XA which is a 35 year old point and shoot 35mm film camera with a built in 28mm f2.8 lens, I used porta 160NC then scanned from the neg at the local minlab for about $2. The camera cost me $100 off ebay and went all around europe with me was dropped several times, lived in my pocket and had a bucket of water thrown over it (water fight in tailands new years celebrations) and still works fine, do that with a d700. Oh and it had no post processing done at all.<div></div>

Steve Mundy wrote:

 

"You missed the most important words:

 

"to get the same shot"

 

You are not going to get the same shot Steve, the DX sensor crops out the character of the lens in use. Great lenses

often exhibit "Peripheral Bokeh" which in the case of faster lenses is the way the out of focus elements of an image

change shape as one moves from the center to the corners of the frame. It can give quite a pleasing effect.

 

Lenses that specifically have great peripheral bokeh are most of Leica's M range from 28-90mm. Canon's 24, 35, 50, 85

and 135 L series. Nikon's AIS 24/2, 28/2, 35/1.4, etc. When you use these lenses on a DX camera, it just kills the

quality of the lens, nukes it into sterility and makes your images look like mere snap shots.

 

The same goes for long glass too. Depth of field gets greater and kills the effect of a pleasing background. I have been

doing a shoot for nearly a week now in which I am using a 200-400 VR a lot. I could use the 70-200 VR on the D300 and

be lighter, but the images look like snapshots, not professional. My D300 goes up for sale in a few days, I just don't use

it at all. I would rather use my 1.33 crop M8 or film before I crop the essential character out of my lenses like DX does.

 

So despite what you may think, you will never get the same shot from a DX sensor image that you would from a proper

FX sized sensor. I can in most cases but not all, spot the difference between DX and FX pretty easily.

 

I can't wait to get my D700, the perfect pair of truly professional Nikon bodies.

Shane, you can do better than that, maybe not with a P&S but certainly with a DSRL. :-)

I didn't shoot a D700 yet, and probably I'll never, but I took this with a D70s... and don't tell me it's 2-dimensional and flat! :-D

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BTW, I just ordered a D300. :-)

Davide

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Davide

Sorry David I have to agree to disagree there, i like your shot but to me it still looks "hyper real" its super saturated and over sharpened I've never seen a rain forrest look like that with the naked eye and for me thats the whole point of a camera, to capture things as they are, if i then want to alter them unrealistically its my choice not the camera's.

First of all, as a moderator for the Nikon Forum, I would like to thank Joseph for sharing some initial D700 image samples with us. The result from ISO 3200 certainly looks encouraging.

 

Again, I don't think the Canon users should be too discouraged. Of course I could be wrong, but Canon and Sony should have their answers to the D700 soon.

 

As a moderator, I do have problems with threads after threads degenerating to off-topic film vs. digital debates, which we already have countless numbers of in the archives.

Photo.net's position is that everybody is free to use whatever their preferred medium happens to be.

Keep debating in abstract terms that another medium looks "wrong," "flat," or whatever is simply counter-productive.

I recall that around 1990 when Fuji first released the original Velvia, a lot of people immediately dismissed its unnatural brilliant colors as "DisneyChrome," and I was among those people. After a few years, people got accostomed to Velvia

and it replaced Kodachrome as the dominent slide film.

If you would like to engage in those endless debates, please at least start your own thread in the appropriate forum.

Do not hijack threads such as this one.

 

I have deleted quite a few off-topic posts in this thread and decided to close it for further discussion.

If you have concerns about my decision, please feel free to send me e-mail or discuss it with Josh Root,

Director for the Photo.net community. Both Josh and I have e-mail addresses with the format <first name>@photo.net.

Once production D700 sample become available, those sample image will immediately supersede the quick samples

Joseph took inside B&H.

 

In closing, attached is an ISO 6400 sample from a D3. That looks quite clean, as well, for ISO 6400. It'll be interesting to do a head-to-head comparison between the D3 and D700 to see whether there is any difference in terms of high ISO quality.<div></div>