l._david_tomei1 Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 The only instruction manuals I ever see are those showing the post-war IIIc model. I have seen supplementary instructions for the original IIIc, but never an instruction manual. I always assumed that the supplement was a supplement to such a IIIc manual. Did Leitz include an instruction manual for the original IIIc? Thanks for any answers. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_wright1 Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 nothing changed except the "step" for the rewind lever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l._david_tomei1 Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 Actually, I'm looking for an instruction manual to accompany a WWII-era IIIc in the collection. So far, no luck. Only post war manuals and supplements. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_wright1 Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 actually, Jim Lager's volume "Leica Literature 1930-1960" reproduces several wartime instruction books and pamphlets for the IIIc. They show the "step" and are dated in the wartime period. In the book you'll find "list photo nr 7920, Leica modelle IIIc und IIId Ocktober 1940"; "list nr 7630a VII, Die neuen Leica-Modelle IIIc, IIId marz 1942"; "Erganzungsblatt zur liste Nr. 7630aVII, Leica-Modell IIIc, marz 1941". I don't know if this volume is still in print--I doubt it, but should show up in used book sources. You might try the Leica Gallery in NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l._david_tomei1 Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 Thanks Will. I have Lager's other books where he only shows supplements. They must be rare for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_wright1 Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 it would appear from looking at the wartime material in Lagers book that I mentioned, that they didn't issue a complete instruction book for the IIIc, but sort of an "update" from the previous IIIa,b complete manuals. I'd infer from what I see that there aren't what you'd call a complete instruction book for wartime IIIc's. What's unknown as far as I'm aware is did any military paperwork cover the camera's operation, In our army, we had complete TM's (tech manuals) for the IIIf and later the M2. Perhaps some such material exist, but I've never heard of it. Another source might be Bill Rosaurer, the LHSA Viewfinder editor. Bill had done several articles on German military equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry_lehrer1 Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 L. I have a WW2 era manual for the Leica IIIc. It is in German. It is not for sale. Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l._david_tomei1 Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share Posted May 20, 2008 J. .... OK David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohir_ali Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 I have one and you can't have it...NA NA NA NA NA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l._david_tomei1 Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 Yo! I was just sayin', are there any. (would ja take a couple hundred for it?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alun_crockford Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Try this http://www.butkus.org/chinon/leica.htm Though if you are trying to load the film might I suggest taking the lens off ,setting the lens to B opening the shutter and feeding the film into the trap >I only mention this because it is not mentioned in the manual ,and film cutters are hard to come by Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohir_ali Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 LDT, I was apeing Jerk Lawyer. I don't have one. I'd give it to you if I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l._david_tomei1 Posted May 22, 2008 Author Share Posted May 22, 2008 Thanks, Mohir. I should have put a "; )" in there to let you know I knew. Thanks Alun. I was asking out of curiosity mostly because the only instruction manuals I ever see are the post-war IIIc ones. Ciao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_eitnier Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 David, There was that one listing in German as mentioned from Jim`s book, but other than that there were NO printed manuals in English or for an English speaking market Less than 200 IIIC`s were even in allied hands by the end of the war, but that was to soon change, I have records of cameras being sold to the US Forces as early as May 9th (the day after the surrender) US Third Army made a Leica Instruction manual in June 1945 which features a "stepped rewind platform" Leica IIIC in it for the first time, this was pretty much the first English language manual of any sort, I do have a copy and I will be producing professional copies about the time that I release my book about US Army Leica`s - sometime next year, ohh and that person who said the other difference in the cameras were the stepped rewind platform is very very wrong, there where at least 4 different types technical versions of the camera (it`s maybe the most modified line of cameras in Leitz`s history) all of that will finally be explained when this book comes out a great deal of history about the IIIC has been ignored for years, mostly evertything`s been written about the wartime cameras, but nothing about what happened right after the war, I hope that our book will shed some light on this subject Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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