rob_van_valkenburg Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Hi there, I'll be getting my D300 pretty soon and was wandering if the new 16-85 vr lens is really as good as it is.. Over the years i've aquired several very nice nikon lenses (af28 1.4, afs17-35, af60 micro, af85 1.4, af180 2.8, afs300 4.0) but also briefly owned the afs24-85. While optically quite good, I could never get used to the "plastic" feel and the 3.5-5.6 aperture shift. In other words: will the 16-85 be usefull for me, or would a afs24-70 be a better option? I know its kind of a "luxury problem" but hey.. Kind regards, Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_smith3 Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 I don't think the 24-70mm will be wide enough. I use the 18-70mm AFS dx om my d 300. Lens quality is good to very good. It is plastic and has thta aperture shift you don't like. But it presents a small profile and does not weigh a ton. Joe Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas_greenberg Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 A 24-70 zoom will not give you much range on the wide-angle end of things. I would daresay it's inadequate in this respect. For a general, "walkaround" lens you probably want something that zooms out to the 16-18mm. point. Personally, I use the 18-200mm. VR as my general-purpose lens, and I think it's terrific. The 16-85 VR is getting good reviews--considering its price, it had better :). The question then becomes whether the reduced zoom range/convenience is offset by superior performance within the more limited zoom range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric_arnold Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 if i was just getting a walkaround lens for the d300 now, i'd get the 16-85 over the 18-200. if constant aperture is a big deal for you get the expensive 17-55 or the modestly priced tamron 17-50. then again, since you already have the 17-35 for the wide end, what about the nikkor 35-70? i'm a little concerned about the QC problems with the 24-70, which shouldn't happen at that price, so you might want to wait for the next batch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niccoury Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 how's about a 12-24 f/4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_trabucco Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 My brand new D300 being my first Nikon SLR and having no lenses to start with I chose the 16-85 as the lens to order with the camera. I find it very good. The build quality is very good and optically I have zero complaints. It's a great lens just to carry around on the camera. Range is great with the DX crop factor. Size is great as a carry. The VR is a DEFINATE bonus - don't underestimate it's value. It is what it is. Not a "pro" lens but a great one that covers a multitude of situations adequtely. I imagine that for my needs this lens, a 70-300mm VR, and the 50mm 1.4 will be all the lenses I own for a good while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarmstrong Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 I did a lot of research on this same topic and settled on the 18-200 VR. I must have bought a good one because it has been a great "walk around" lens. No problems with creep or other significant issues. See Matt Laur's and Tim Keller's work for some nice examples. I'm very satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarmstrong Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Here is an example:<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry nguyen cuu - nomad Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 I second Richard Armstrong for the 18-200. Speed wise, the 16-85 doesn't offert very exciting features over the 18-200 for approx the same price. I can most of the time deal with the 2 mm difference at the wide end, but the long end of the 18-200 is way more versatile. But if you need to buy something, with what you already (wow) have, I think the 12-24 f4 is a best buy, as suggested by Nic Coury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photo5 Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Having purchased the 18-200mm I would not recommend it unless you don't need to shoot at 18mm very often. It has pretty severe distortion at this focal length and I found it unacceptable. The 18-70mm is an excellent lens at an excellent price. I recently upgraded from that lens to the new 16-85mm VR zoom, which is leaps and bounds better than the 18-200mm, as well as going wider, which for me is significant as most of my photography doesn't go beyond 70-85mm. I have the 70-300mm ED zoom if I need more telephoto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_in_PA Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 I think Dave had a really bad one. I find my 18-200 to be the ultimate walk-around lens. I never find the distortion to be a real problem because I'm not a professional brick wall shooter, and I'd rather have the 85-200 range on my lens than the 16-18 for the same price. I shoot a LOT between 24 and 50 on that lens and find that it is a real sweet spot there, too. But keep all that other stuff you have for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acbeddoe Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 The 18-200mm and 16-85mm might be ok. I also have the 18-70mm AF-S on it occasionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarmstrong Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 The 18-200 will distort at 18, but you have to be aware of what you're shooting. If you have close in shots of vertical uprights like trees or buildings, you'll see it. If you are doing a wide landscape shot, you'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarmstrong Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Rob, Check out this thread... http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00P155 And look at Matt Laur's examples from Verona, Italy to see how versatile the 18-200 can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchfalk Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Nikon has a great deal going on right now - D300 W/18-200 VR for under $2200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedding-photography-denver Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 The 24-85 f28-4 is a good one and the 16-85 would also be good. The latter is only for Dx bodies though. We are talking about a 'walk around' lens after all. Not a top notch lens, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedding-photography-denver Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Oh yeah, I use the 18-200 for a walk around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohanmike Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 I use the Nikon AF 24-85 f/2.8-4 D Macro on a D70s and find it very useful. For me it is wide enough, and because it also serves as a 1:2 macro, I have a very versatile lens in one. Here are samples: http://www.kohanmike.com/samples_24_85.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholas_yu Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 I also recommend the 18-200 for a 'walk around lens' I have this on my (now broken) D200. Its not the sharpest lens out there, but its great lens for doing pretty much all the 'fun' shooting I do. IMO, its the best multipurpose lens going. If I am going to shoot anything serious, I get the primes out anyway. Below is a recent shot (on my broken d200) taken with the 18-200. The only thing I could ask for is the ability to stop it down a bit at the long end.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholas_yu Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Err... That should read 'open it up at the long end' not stop down... duh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl_becker2 Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 IMHO the 24-70mm is the best fit for what you currently have. I don't see you being happy with anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickey j Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 I started using the 24-85 for my walk around lens and I'm so pleased with it that I now use it as my primary lens.It gives me the versatility to match my taste. My 12-24mm , 90mm marco ( tamron ) and 70-200 are always near by but most the time the 24-85 is on the camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjørn rørslett Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 The 16-85 VR is a surprisingly good lens for the DX models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonard_forte1 Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 I am waiting for the Sigma 18-125 OS lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 "The 16-85 VR is a surprisingly good lens for the DX models." Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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