todd_phillips3 Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 i am feeling like quite a dork right now.. I could have done one more search and saved all that money and energy... I think I was just in hurry up and fix it mode without thinking things through all the way... I am calmed down now and not sure if I am going to hassle it any further or not... I might just lick my wounds and move on and focus on enjoying this camera... hot pixels and all.. ;-) one last photo for this thread... taken on my way home from work tonight outside my office.. taken with the 'new' camera... i bet you can't find the hot pixels! (but they're in there) <br> <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/tmphillips/2297911898/" title="work"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3269/2297911898_54a2065a40.jpg?v=0" alt="work" /></a> <br> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgredline Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Nice photo!! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_kuhne Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 IF you can get your money back (sounds like the store would not be the type for that courtesy without a hassle), the deal you found on the Super is outstanding- if still there. They go fast. The Super has contacts for Pentax high-end lenses having special SDM focus. It also has a vibrator to help dislodge dust from the sensor. There is a new one of those lenses coming up I am waiting to consider- a 17-70mm f/4. If you like shooting JPEG, the K100 is tops. Superb quality right out of the camera. Justin and Renato know their stuff. They have used, and do use, a lot of camera models, including other brands. I almost forgot about the other post on hot pixels. I've been lucky so far. The Pentax 6mp sensor and 10mp sensor is made by Sony and also used in models by Sony, Nikon, Samsung, as well as Pentax and perhaps others. From there, it is circuitry, processing, and other various camera design factors that account for differences. The Pentax kit lens, 18-55mm is quite good, and well made, especially for its low cost. It is small, and fine with the built-in flash without interference. There are numerous other choices for various needs. If you eventually get into it enough to go the money for the Pentax Limited series prime lenses, like the 21mm and 43mm, they are great compact walkabout lenses for a compact model like yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd_phillips3 Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 thanks for the advice.. i got to the store during my lunch hour and the manager is off today.. so the end result will have to wait til tomorrow... My buddy just got a killer deal on an Canon XTi and he is excited about that, but I am really happy with my choice. I just want my $50 battery money back! ;-) It's funny to me when you call it 'compact model'. I was coming from p&s's so this thing is huge to me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgredline Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Todd Let your friend handle your Pentax and then Let him handle His XTI. It will feel like he bought it at Toys R us.. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd_phillips3 Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 yeah, that's what I've read a lot. We will get together at some point I am sure and compare notes.. I have another friend who has an EOS 10D and I got to take a few photos with that last weekend before I bought my K100D. It seemed alright to me. I guess I am just too new to really notice things... But now that I've shot a few hundred pictures with my K100D I may notice it more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserere_mei Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Todd, when you get together with your friend and his XTi, ask him whether his lens is image-stabilised. Then pat your K100D, smile, and say in a dreamy voice "any lens I put on my K100D is image-stabilised...even this fine 20 year-old prime I picked up on eBay for $50". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgredline Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 ''Miserere Mei, Feb 28, 2008; 07:25 p.m. Todd, when you get together with your friend and his XTi, ask him whether his lens is image-stabilised. Then pat your K100D, smile, and say in a dreamy voice "any lens I put on my K100D is image-stabilised...even this fine 20 year-old prime I picked up on eBay for $50".'' LOL, THIS IS A GOOD ONE. I WILL REMEMBER THIS ONE...LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_kuhne Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 The XTi has no true spot meter either, gotta spend more for the new XSi to get that. Nor a top LCD panel. And their kit lens is truly a piece of junk. Tested sharp out of the box, but is built like crap, and not likely to hold its alignment. Its manual focus mechanism is just lousy. But it does offer more features than the Nikon D40(x). If the D40 is loaded with anything it's shortcomings. Now Canon and Nikon make some fine equipment, but in this price range, it's another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd_phillips3 Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 Well a happy ending to the story.. The guy was fine with the exchange so I got my $50 back and the original used K100D that I purchased. So now I can spend that $50 on batteries and enjoy learning how to use this camera and try to forget my little blunder ever happened.. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserere_mei Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 So Mr Todd Phillips will be shooting RAW from now on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd_phillips3 Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 I am guessing that I will shoot mostly jpeg for the convenience/speed of it for now and just clean up the shots I need to that have the obtrusions... Which do you prefer (I am guessing RAW?)? You have a K10, right? (Tangent; I was just checking out the K20 and boy that thing looks pretty nice!) Maybe in a year the price will have dropped and my skills will have risen...) :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserere_mei Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Yes, I have the K10D. I bought it a little over 6 months ago and was considering the K100D for a while. But when the rebates came out and Circuit City offered 10% off for a week, I just went for the K10D. You're right in that you'll be in a good position to upgrade to the K20D in a year's time, when the price will definitely have come down. Start saving up now, and when the time comes you can also sell your K100D to help make the upgrade as economically painless as possible. As far as jpeg vs RAW, the debate will rage on forever. I shot jpeg for a couple of months (as I had been doing with my P&S), and then decided to see what I could do with RAW. The power it gives you over your pictures is incredible; I see photography as art, not reproduction, so being able to adjust colours, brightness, etc. with so much ease and image quality made me a convert to RAW. However, I don't go around trying to convince people RAW is the only path. If your jpegs look the way you want them to straight out of the camera and you don't need to use photoshop on them, then by all means save yourself the hassle and storage space and shoot in jpeg! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd_phillips3 Posted March 1, 2008 Author Share Posted March 1, 2008 yeah, I experimented with raw a little more last night, and this camera is definitely easier than my previous camera. It doesn't bog down nearly as bad. I tend to edit photos that I really like so I am probably better off majoring in raw mode... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd_phillips3 Posted March 1, 2008 Author Share Posted March 1, 2008 oh, and i forgot to mention that I get a lot less noise/hot pixels in raw mode... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd_phillips3 Posted March 1, 2008 Author Share Posted March 1, 2008 Is there a recommended RAW editor for K100D? I am using Ufraw because it exports to GIMP but it doesnt always seem to interpret correctly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgredline Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Todd I use both CS2/3 and Lightroom, but they are pretty pricey. The pentax software works ok too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmanamey Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Todd, are you a good enough man ;-D to be a mac user? Aperture is fanstastic, easy, and only $200. Very, very easy to self teach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd_phillips3 Posted March 2, 2008 Author Share Posted March 2, 2008 good enough man? is this a spam email for male enhancements? :-) no no.. just a lowly pc user... for some reason I am hesitant to try whatever pentax has made available for raw deciphering. I don't expect it to be good. I have tried 'ufraw', and 'raw therapee' that are fronts for dcraw, and they work. ufraw is better imo, except it doesnt always get the white balance right. Oddly enough Irfanview gets the white balance right but if I want to go straight from raw to my editor I like to go with ufraw because it spits right into GIMP. I just did a bunch of messing with low light shots of the kids from after dinner... mostly at 3200iso without flash and there is just so much noise... sigh.. I have much to learn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgredline Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Todd What I have found that works in low light is this...First, unless it is really dark avoid ISO 3200...How ever if you are going to use it, set the camera on AV mode and set the aperture wide open..If your using the kit lens plan on it being 3.5 and 18-20mm if memory serves me right.. Secondly, you will also and may have to go +1 to 2 EV... All this of course if your not using a flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd_phillips3 Posted March 2, 2008 Author Share Posted March 2, 2008 I will definitely try that. It wasn't really dark. I would say medium-low... So I probably shoulda gone with 1600? Would AV mode still apply for that going with 1600 in medium-low light? I like that lower living room light wihtout flash if I can get it cleaner... Thanks for the advice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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