Rene11664880918 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Hello every one! This is the first time I post here. I'm a Canon FD & a Nikon digital user. This time I'm coming for some advice to help a friend. He uses a EOS D30D (He sys it is like 8 years old). I thought he meant 30D but nope! Anyway, we work with japanese Kois (Nishikigoi) and we take pictures for the purpose of showing the fish to costumers. the problem is they are fish and they keep moving so much. He saw me shooting with my Nikon D300 and he really loves how fast it focuses. He went to store by himself and the salesman tried to make him buy a Mark III, I think or a 5D. He is an older person with no background if photography therefor I know they are too much for him. I told him so. Eventhough he loves my D300 I told him to stay away from Nikon coz he already got a few Canon lenses. So, he needs a camera with a fast focus system, simple to use for the purpose of taking pictures of moving fish (from above). Any help and advice will be appreciated! Rene' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene11664880918 Posted February 24, 2008 Author Share Posted February 24, 2008 "He uses a EOS D30D (He sys it is like 8 years old)" I meant D30. Also we need the fast focus cos the idea is not only to freeze the fish but we have to freeze it at the right position. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith_lubow Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 How big do the pix have to be? I would say to go for a G9 at most. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene11664880918 Posted February 24, 2008 Author Share Posted February 24, 2008 Basically to mail and if printing them the most A4 (8x10). that's another thing, the salesman tried to trick him telling him that the Mark III takes 20 megabytes pixels pictures therefor the pictures are much better. Coz he doesn't know he thought that was such a good thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bueh Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Why not just get a really fast lens -- i.e., EF 50mm f/1.4 USM or EF 24mm f/1.4 L USM? What lenses does he currently use? Even an used 20D or 30D should be fine with a fast lens. The high frame-rate can help getting the shot. But like Keith I think that a high-end digicam like the Powershot G9 could be perfect if the light is not too dim -- he might even try bounce or tethered flash with an external speedlight and a off-camera flash cord (which I use for my few fish tank photos if the shutter speeds are too slow.) That said, taking pictures of fish is not one the most easiest applications, unfortunately. I guess he needs to learn a little bit about photography if he wants to make great images. Good pictures are very important if you want to sell high-priced stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyinca Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I would say time to up-grade the D30 to a 30D. That would be a 4 generations up grade skiping D60, 10D and 20D. 30D is $760 new at Amazon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_barbu1 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I think my suggestion would be to identify what lenses he has. If he has some that are f/2.8 or faster, I would suggest a 40D (so he could take advantage of the additionally sensitive center AF point that the 30D doesn't have). Otherwise, a 40D + an f/2.8 (or faster) lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mendel_leisk Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I would say either the 30D or 40D in the crop bodies, or the full frame 5D, if he can afford it. A 30D is probably the best bet, if he's not too excited about full frame. It's a bit cheaper than the 40D, and a very solid camera. You say: "He is an older person with no background if photography therefor I know they are too much for him" I don't follow your logic. He's using an older crop body Canon dslr. And he's a bit older. No offense but I think you might be underestimating him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s.l. Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Reasonably, these fish probably aren't rocketing around their tank, right? So he won't need the crazy fast autofocus of the 1D. He mostly needs a good fast shutter to catch them moving. So, a 30 or 40D (fast frame rate) would be ideal. How big are the fish? Maybe a fast macro lens would be good as well. I don't know what the setup is, but an underwater strobe flash or something might be useful if it doesn't spook the fish too much. With DSLRs, my opinion is that you can never have too much light... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinsouthern Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 "that's another thing, the salesman tried to trick him telling him that the Mark III takes 20 megabytes pixels pictures therefor the pictures are much better. Coz he doesn't know he thought that was such a good thing!" I think I'd be inclined to find another salesperson - one who's more interested in their customers needs than they are in their sales commission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene11664880918 Posted February 26, 2008 Author Share Posted February 26, 2008 Thank you for your advices! I convinced him to try a G9 and he seems to like it! He did pretty well today! his pictures got much better within 30 minutes! Thanks a lot! Rene' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mendel_leisk Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 rene', I just got one of our son's a G9, and he's quite happy with it. It does look to be decent "bridge" camera. This son was adamant that he did not want the complexity of a dslr (or so he claims). Another of our sons is more into slr's and we co-purchased a RebelXT for him. And we have a daughter who I have passed on a 20D to. Different strokes for different folks is the way it is. Still, I think with your friend's slr background, he should give a proper dslr a try at least. Or perhaps his slr did not see much use? Anyway, maybe down the road ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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