Leica R system: are you kidding me?

Ok, John. Yadda yadda yadda yadda. Your mother wears army boots. So there. :-)

Assuming it is correctly chosen and in proper adjustment there is little or nothing to be gained by nit-picking with any Leitz or Leica equipment. I would say the same for Nikon, Canon, or any of the other first class brands for that matter. Bench tests and definition charts may reveal minor differences, but there are so many variables otherwise that any differences are inconsequential. Select good equipment, use a tripod where practicable, calculate your exposures correctly, and forget about trifling comparisons. Remember, the human factor is the most critical consideration in any application of photography, nit-picking is a waste of time and effort!

This is silly. A troll evolves into absurd charges of sexism. Good riddance, Thom.

Let's see... Original poster says 'I have a problem getting this camera to perform.'

 

A bunch of people say 'maybe this is the problem.'

 

Then Thom joins photo.net, apparently just to say, 'you think she had this problem

because she's a woman? You're obviously sexist.'

 

Hmm, projecting much?

 

If Thom had been around here much, he would know that folks here have no trouble

accusing one another of not knowing the basic functions of their cameras, regardless of

their genders!

>>> Hey guys, I was the second poster here and nobody is giving me a HARD TIME. What's

up? I feel left out, not being bashed and trashed.<P>

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Scott is right. I've been a Photo.net member for a long time. Many gentlemen visitors here have been told to go get a basic book on photography, or to take a course. I'm married to a feminist professor of woman's issues. I would know if there were any sexism going on here. I don't think there is. The IP was simply inflammatory, and you guys took the bait.

Probably so. The accusation really enraged me, and anyone who knows me would be amused

by it. Slurp...gulp. Yummy.

I love the 'net...it gives idiots like Thom (whoever he is) an audience that they'd otherwise never have.

 

It was tough before the net and people like this could only have their inane little conversations in their head.

Katherine has left the building guys ! She's yanking your chains...Now let's go back to sleep shall we ?

katherine,congratulations on returning to film.

My humble opinion.

I once owned and tested a Konica Auto S3.

The results that came out were less than steller.

I had muddy shadows, weird color, soft images with only

a few exceptions.

I would never own or buy a Konica auto S3 again because of this.

However, i did use THE ORIGINAL PX625 BATTERY! as found,

AND CHEAPO $2.50 FILM! hmmm ...

Great going Katherine, whoever you are.

You got the guys rav'in , ta be sure!

 

All you Leica gods and stuck up Leica owning " collectors" ;

Nobody cares anymore!

Leica is a legend, like a Van Gogh painting.

Just like owning a Van Gogh, it satisfies the ego and makes the owner feel and appear special.

The world and life go on, Leica club aficionados.

Go smoke a cigar or polish the Leica chrome on that C3.

Nothing wrong with Leica or any of their owners ,

but attitude is everything.

 

Be a well rounded Leica individual and count the lesser

non Leica owning " folk" in!

 

 

 

Nothing wrong with owning a legend,

but there are very few still alive!

ps: Is Leica still in the film camera business, and if so,

wonder what their sales figures have been the last few years?

Surely that paints an obvious picture, doesn't it?

It is a niche market only, the used Leica fan club market.

Like l said , nobody cares.

Especially Canon.

I wonder what the replies would be if...

 

I know this may seem like a flamebait post but it is really just my honest reflections on the Canon EOS system.

 

I have recently decided to get back into film photography after 5 years of shooting purely digital. I visited a friend recently to try out some of their film cameras (they have a few) and I was somewhat surprised by the results.

 

I shot a test roll myself with each one and then had them developed. I wanted to see which would have the kind of look I wanted to go for.

 

Nikon 35mm film camera with 50mm lens: 9/10 very impressed with this system.

 

Leica R6 with 2/50 lens, 8.5/10 very nice these shots came out.

 

Canon EOS 1 body with 50mm f/1.4 lens: 3/10 (being charitable there). Extremely disappointed. I thought all these years that Canon was as good as Nikon or Leica system. It was like 1/3 at best in my 1 roll experience. I have seen similar results with disposable cameras, it was that unimpressive.

I call attention to the leading camera-equipment sales mfr- distributor in the world. Canon.

I do not even own a Canon and i don't care if i ever do.

Sports pros? Canon.

On and on .

 

Point being, i agree with your findings to this extent Ilkka:

Everybody has an opinion, ask 25 people the same question and ,you all know the rest of the line.

Nikon has some superb lenses, as does Canon, as does Leica,

as do any of the major mfrs, we all know this.

 

It is a dud you have stoked, Ilkka, not a flame-bait.

 

Again, i say, the pros use the best and don't bitch about it.

You get what you pay for.

As for Miss or Mrs. Katherine's original post. Like the man said,

have a look at Salgato's portfolio, Katherine.

He never whined, he just took the shots.

They were very good, because he is a very good artist.

One cannot give or take away credit to the Leica "R" system.

The camera he used worked for him.

 

Katherine, and this goes out to all the Katherines out in cyberspace,

( lest Katherine take the comments personally- i am just using her post as a general example of what is so typical amongst unqualified and subjective opinions such as hers, touted to be quasi-factual-) if Sebastian had used the VERY SAME camera Leica R system, do you think he would have taken less meaningful photos, or that his photos would have failed to have impact?

Personally, i do not think so!

You could give me a Hassy or the latest pro Canon digital and the

very best "L" lens and it would be pointless.

I may as well use a good quality point and shoot;

hey, maybe my Yashica MG-1 would get me the shots! hahahaah!!!!

 

Leica shm-eica ; Canon sh-manon- its the photographer that

wins the best photos- the cam is just a tool.

 

Get over it Katherine and get yourself the best Leica you can afford .

Then come back and tell us all that the camera and lens is no good.

 

Why crank about your own photographic inadequacies?

If you like the M cameras and lenses you may try to find an M2 - an extremely well built camera.

 

The pinnacle of Leica hand craftsmanship build quality and innovation.

 

 

Then the quality walked away and the innovation was trapped in an eternal time warp.

Read a National Geographic paper a few (or more) years ago,a sort of special issue where one NG photograper said that he used Leica R's because of optics but gave up due to poor reliability of bodies. The opinion floating about was that R4 & 5 were not that hard wearing. I use M.