Coming competion for 5D and 30D?

The sony's competitor for 30d and 5d are long overdue, They should have released it just months after they released the A100.

 

I think that Sony's strategy about the dslr market Is not audacious enough, to be able to capture bigger market share.

 

At first sony's outlook on the dslr market is very bright , they wish to surpass Nikon, Sadly it did'nt came true, And sony's market share in dslr market is shrinking by the day, today. I believe this is because of lack of models to choose from, And of course, the high price of their lens.

 

 

So I think sony should release ground breaking products ASAP, and reduce the price of their lens, So that they'll be on the right track again.

KAA,

 

The reason Canon is not updating the 5D at the moment is not because there is no competition, but because it does not make sense to update the 5D full frame before updating the 1DS MK2.

 

I suspect if Sony honestly believe that they will push Canon into 3rd place from their current No.1 slot (There are more Pro photographers worldwide using Canon cameras than Nikon)they must be either drunk or on another planet - they will always struggle to be an effective contender as their history is built outside of the DSLR camera market, it takes years to convince sceptical photographers that their new model is not just a flash in the pan!

 

Dream on Sony!

I dont understand that Sony guys, the R1 was an amazing camera and they stopped it for that A100 Minolta clon. Regards Martin

<p> Bob, have a look in <a href="http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00M374">this thread</a>. </p>

 

<p> Happy shooting, <br>

Yakim. </p>

Well, I guess I'm just more skeptical than others here. I'm all for competition and would like to see Canon be forced to drop their prices on high end gear. They charge entirely too much for the 1Ds bodies.

 

Perhaps you explained elsewhere how your B-I-L got around any NDA he would surely be under, but this sounds like unsubstantiated rumors and just doesn't seem "right".

 

1) Sony can claim 2x the resolution? Anyone can claim anything they want, but that doesn't make it true as has been proven by Sigma. The 20/40 sounds implausible to me.

 

2) Sony believes Canon will drop to 3rd place? Not in our lifetimes. No one is going to bet their business on Sony, and Sony doesn't have the lens line up, accessories, or support network to make that happen. Canon will continue to own the pro market but Sony may increase sales at the bottom. Nikon is the one that's vulnerable and may drop to 3rd if Sony wants to get aggressive, but no one I know is going to give up their Canon gear to jump to Sony....

 

3) Sony couldn't disclose that the bodies/lenses they showed were final concepts due its competition? What does that mean? I'm also not sure what SSS means so can you explain that?

 

In short, I support competition and think Canon needs a poke badly, but Sony is frequently incompetent when developing anything other than screens. Their absolute failure in the music market after owning it with the Walkman is legendary. Their incompetent introduction of MS/MSP vs. using existing SD or CF was mind boggling, but consistent with their other blunders of trying to make everything "Sony only". Sony can be remarkably dumb for a large company and I'm sadly predicting that they will have little effect on the high end market.

Sony seems to be battling itself from within. When they released their 808 / R1 cameras

they both took CF cards (IIRC) but both were crippled unless one used Memory Sticks.

 

I don't think we will be seeing these Sony cameras this year. Maybe they will 'show' them,

but until it's sitting at B&H and one can order it, it's hardly a released product.

 

I mainly think that Sony showed those mockups at the photo show to whet whistles, and

not to indicate that these cameras would be coming out soon. Remember, at major photo

shows, under glass = nonfunctional mockup.

By definition, there is no such thing as an SLR without an optical viewfinder. They can call it what they like but it won't be an SLR.

 

I would be interested in a good EVF camera with interchangeable lenses, I can envision it as combining many of the benefits of the SLR and the more compact rangefinders.... but if its lenses are interchangeable with an SLR line, most of the benefit is lost because the lens mount will make the camera bulky. Take that same concept, put a Leica M bayonet on it and a very good EVF, and I'd like to see it.

 

I wish the folks at Sony well, and I hope they have an interesting and successful line. The idea of some combination of Sony and Nikon pushing Canon to third place in the top end DSLR field is unimaginable to me, though, and I expect that they will not lose too much sleep over it over at Canon.

Well, the sales figures are the sales figures, and Sony for sure is not toppling Canon from top spot at present, but I believe they could, if they get a couple of things right. I'm not losing any sleep over it and none of us should, because as consumers we will benefit. The Canon execs surely should be keeping an eye on Sony and may well be losing sleep, but that's what they're paid for.

what it could mean is that Nikon eventually get a full frame model on the market. sony can make a good product but their customer service stinks and because of that I wouldn't buy another Sony product.

If the Sony doesn't come with a built in CD and DVD player, GPS system and pizza take out order hotline direct link I am not interested and will stick with the Canon gear.