l._david_tomei1 Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 I'm not sure that this is the right forum for this post. I have an unused roll of Zeiss Tageslicht film marked 17/10 DIN Kassettenfüllung. I would guess that it is pre-war daylight 828 or 35mm film but I can find no details regarding Zeiss film produced in the 1930's through 1950's. Any information would be helpful. Thanks. David<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umut_arslan Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 very old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochen_S Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 This film speed rating (10th?DIN) got out of fashion after the late 50s. OTOH: Isn't Zeiss Ikon a post WW2 corporation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_the_waste Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Tageslicht film is just daylight film. Zeiss Ikon could date back as far as 1926. It's possible the film is rated DIN 17 which would put it at around ASA 50 or slightly lower. Kassettenfullung basically means it's meant to fill a cassette. You'd have to open it up in a darkroom to make any sense of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john lehman, college alask Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 Jochen Schreyphoto.net wrote "Isn't Zeiss Ikon a post WW2 corporation?" The "modern" Zeiss Ikon Stiftung (trust) dates from the 1920's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin h. y. lui. Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 IT is a very old film that I have seen once when I was small. I don't know the excat date but I can guess it wouls be 1930s products, when rollfilm cameras are very popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riccardo_mottola Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 well, if it says Kassettenfüllung 35mm Cartdriges come to my mind (I tink they were called kassetten in Germany back then). But I didn't know they were sold pre-loaded... They type of paper used, the print type and the fact that DIN speed is referred into decimal fraction with a degree (similar to the then popular designation Scheiner Degrees) makes me too think of 1930ies or earlier, although if it is 35mm then it will clearly date as the Contaflex TLR or later! That would be a good marking point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l._david_tomei1 Posted July 16, 2007 Author Share Posted July 16, 2007 Thanks. I was told elsewhere that this is an early cassette refill dating from the time of the Contax I introduction. I have no confirmation of this suggestion. There is a lot out there about the cameras and optics but I haven't found anything on Zeiss film production. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck_foreman1 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 L David, No new info here, but this info regarding refill for a cassette for a 1930s Contax from the early days of 35mm sounds right to me. The early Leicas also used cartridges of "Kino" film. You can buy reloadable 35mm cartridges. With a changing bag or in a darkroom ...theoretically it could be loaded , Maybe Gene M has some tips if you'Re interested in exposing the film! There was a ASA 10 (Early Kodachrome) but a 17 DIN would be at least a full stop faster ?? I'm not surprised there'S little info on-line. I mean really film was like bread was meant to be "consumed" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_lofquist Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 17 DIN is about ASA 40 which is rather conservative in todays ISO ratings that are calculated a bit differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ward Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 This is all interesting as heck, but it leaves me with a question--- where did you find the film? Where has it been for the last 30 - 70 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l._david_tomei1 Posted July 18, 2007 Author Share Posted July 18, 2007 errr...found it on (ebay) and I was the only one to bid. The wax paper is as new. I would love to open it and shoot it but then old wine can be wonderful but an old bottle of beer is perhaps best kept unopened. Ciao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l._david_tomei1 Posted August 11, 2007 Author Share Posted August 11, 2007 In case anyone wants to know, ZI was kind enough to confirm that this is a cartridge refill from the 1930's. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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