ian_trider Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Hi, Lurked for a while, just created an account. I work at a consumer photofinisher that prints on a Frontier. Occasionally I see questions about the backprint information (information on the back of prints) and what it means. Does anybody want the gory details from the Frontier manual? If so, I'll grab a copy and post it here for you. I'd give you a complete list from memory, but i'm not /that/ good. :P Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_shriver Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Yes, I think it would be useful to many folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert himmelright Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 its pretty simple.... <frame number> autocorrections and modes (IE b/w sepia sharpening) manual corrections n=neutral numbers=additions letters or negative numbers= subtractions sort number. Thats if that particular frontier is set up that way though. I've seen ones that print just "store name" "sort number" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_trider Posted June 14, 2007 Author Share Posted June 14, 2007 Indeed. Of course the most interesting thing is finding out whether the lab has listened to you (i.e. whether or not that have turned off sharpening, auto corrections) and its printed on there. I'll grab that info today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randall_pukalo Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Yes, please post Ian. I have wondered many times exactly what they mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_trider Posted June 14, 2007 Author Share Posted June 14, 2007 OK. Today was pretty busy so I only had a chance to grab the details for digital. I'll find the film backprint info tomorrow. <p> Digital backprint looks lke this: <br> <tt></tt><tt>< SSS00001.JPG > A00031 - 001 0001 NNNN 1 * </tt> <p> From left to right:<br> 1. "SSS00001" Filename. (first 8 char)<br> 2. "JPG" Extension.<br> 3. "A00031" Sort order. (Frontier term for your order's unique ID)<br> 4. "001" Image number.<br> 5. "0001" Quantity of this print.<br> 6. "NNNN" CMYD correction data. That's Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, Density . "N" For no correction, "1" through "9" for +1 to +9, "a" through "f" for +10 to +15, "A" through "O" for -1 to -15.<br> 7. Resize mode.<br> 3: fill-in. Image is automatically cropped to fill the entire paper leaving no white.<br> 2: Fit-in. Image is fit onto the paper leaving white borders if necessary.<br> 1: No resize. Image is printed pixel-for-pixel, assuming a DPI of 300.<br> If you image is in 4x6 or 6x4 shape already, fill-in and fit-in will produce the same results. If it is exactly 300 dpi, No resize will produce the same as well. If you produce a file that is, say, 2" x 3" @ 300dpi it will be exactly 2" x 3" with "No resize."<br> 8. Additional Corrections:<br> *: Auto correction off. Absense of this indicates auto correction is on. To the best of my knowledge it basically only sets the whitepoint and blackpoint of the image (akin to Photoshop Auto Contrast). <br> P: Scene correction - Close shot with flash (curve that brings down highlights.) <br> M: Scene correction - Cloudy (curve that increases contrast.)<br> G: Scene correction - Backlit (curve that brings up shadows.)<br> S: Sharpening. <p>The additional corrections can occur in conjunction; i.e. "* P S" means Auto was off, Scene correction - close shot with flash and sharpening were selected. <p>The film stuff is a bit different and offers a bit more control. More later. <p>Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_trider Posted June 14, 2007 Author Share Posted June 14, 2007 I should clarify, that is digital prints using the DI Controller (separate computer for processing digital), which is the way most labs will be working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_trider Posted June 15, 2007 Author Share Posted June 15, 2007 <p>Film backprint info:</p> <p> <tt>N A 01 0 ANA 0 NNN 0 XXXX</tt></p> <p>From left to right:</p> <p><strong>"N" Input type.</strong><br> "N" Colour Negative<br> "P" Reversal<br> "E" External input<br> "B" Black/white film<br> "X" Other</p> <p><strong>"A" Automatic correction conditions.<br> </strong>"A" Full auto correction; operator can make further adjustments.<br> "1" Tone fixing; no initial autocorrection, operator makes all adjustments.<br> I believe this "automatic correction" is basically limited to the equivilent of an automatic setting of the black and whitepoints. </p> <p><strong>"01" Custom Setting Number<br> </strong>Preset number in Frontier. Omitted if standard preset is used.</p> <p><strong>"0" </strong><strong>High-definite Process<br> </strong>"0" RP Tone off, Face Express Normal.<br> "2" RP Tone off, Face Express High.<br> "4" RP tone on, Face Express Normal.<br> "6" RP tone on, Face Express High.<br> RP tone simulates reversal film by increasing saturation and contrast and face express detects skintones and reduces contrast in said skintones. How this works I have no idea.</p> <p><strong>"ANA" Grain Control Process/Sharpness/Hypertone<br> Grain Control - "A" <br> </strong>"X" No grain redution.<br> "A" Normal.<br> "B" Low grain reduction.<br> <strong>Sharpness - "N" <br> </strong>From "-3" through "+3" with the same codes as CMYD I listed in the digital section. <br> <strong>"Hypertone" - "A"<br> </strong>"X" off.<br> "A" On.<br> "B" On, increased correction.<br> Hypertone is automatic adjustment of image curves. Operator can still add an additional "tone adjust."</p> <p><strong>"0" Tone Adjust<br> </strong>"0" Standard<br> "1" All Hard<br> "2" All Soft<br> "3" Highlight Hard<br> "4" Highlight Soft<br> "5" Shadow Hard<br> "5" Shadow Soft<br> Allows adjustments to the image's curve. </p> <p><strong>"NNN" CMY Colour correction. </strong><br> Same scale as digital.</p> <p><strong>"0"</strong><strong> Density correction.<br> </strong>Self explanitory.</p> <p><strong>"XXXX" Sort number.<br> </strong>Unique ID for order.</p> <p>On the next line, you simply find the frame number, a custom message (if selected) and then a four digit "Exposure condition retrieve no." The frontier records the settings for each photo and issues it this number, so the operator can reprint with identical settings just by entering the number. </p> <P>And thats all the gory details. <br> Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_ralph Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 This is the usual way for the backprint to be set up, but you can have whatever you want printed on the back or even switch off the backprint entirely if you so desire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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