Where do you draw the line on stealing images?

<i>"creativity is knowing whom to steal from" correctly, instead of your surely misquoted and wrong </i><p>

Aw, Frank, you goofed!.<p>

It should be: "Creativity is knowing from whom to steal."<p>

University of Texas Crash course on Copyright (on line)

 

http://www.utsystem.edu/OGC/IntellectualProperty/cprtindx.htm

Frank: Well, Formal English is not a religion, though it abounds with superstitions, such as that one should never start a sentence with ?well.? Thank you for your editing of my brief comment, which was meant to encourage Kier, and not to reopen the Grammar Wars.

You, perhaps, failed to notice the quotation marks around the words "whom to steal from," indicating that those were not my words, but the words of someone who spoke them to me.

Styles change in clothing, in automobiles, in where to get tattoos, and in use of language, and today it is considered archaic by many grammarians to use ?whom? when ?who? would do just as well, and would be less formal and stodgy. However if one prefers to use the traditional ?whom,? he/she may do so.

I have no comment on the errors in grammar, punctuation and spelling in your response. I understood what you were trying to say, and see no need to pick a stranger to pieces, simply to inflate my ego. I am having enough trouble trying to decipher the abbreviations so prevalent in the current generation?s e-mail correspondence. I?m still trying to figure out IMHO. I e-mailed my daughter to ask her what the heck LOL meant. When I was teaching sixth grade, the students signed their clandestine notes, ?LOL,? which meant, ?Lots of Love,? but I doubt that?s what you guys mean.

 

?The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one?s real and one?s declared aims, one turns, as it were instinctively, to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish squirting out ink.? ? George Orwell quoted in ?Writing With Style: Conversations on the Art of Writing,? by John R. Trimble, University of Texas at Austin.

Comfort yourself?I am an ex-teacher.

Copying his lighting technique is ok. However, exactly copying his composition and subject matter so that it looks like a copy of his photograph is a different story. Otherwise the copywrite of photo images would be meaningless.

My goodness! John Trimble being quoted here: He was my faculty advisor at UT starting in

1976. Is he still teaching?

Ellis, this book by John Trimble was copyrighted in 1975. I don't know if he is still at UT. But I like his writing. Concise and very helpful.

"Stealing the image" would be to use the actual photograph without authorization, acknowledgement, or payment. I believe you meant to say "stealing the idea"

 

I, for one, do it all the time. If I see a shot from a different perspective, or with different lighting than I've done before, I might go out and shoot any number of things in that same manner, without trying to make a direct copy of what I first saw

 

And I've shot Half Dome, Delicate Arch, etc. from the same places as the greats. Don't feel like I'm "stealing" a thing

 

Speaking of the martial arts studio participants: do you want to be so "original" that no one knows what the hell that is? Of course not, so use the ideas you got in your own way. Good luck

 

BTW, for the MFA program, learn all the trendy vocabulary, and use it all, never hurts

thanks everyone for the info and insight!