woolly1 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Hi, I am looking at putting a Tamron SP 90/2.5 macro with Adaptall2 mount on a D70s and wondered what the metering situation is with this setup. Any help would be well received.Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivek iyer Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 <i>the metering situation is</i> <p> fEE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolly1 Posted August 14, 2006 Author Share Posted August 14, 2006 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivek iyer Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Can anyone post an animated version of the (blinking) fEE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolly1 Posted August 14, 2006 Author Share Posted August 14, 2006 OK, after a cursory look to see what fEE means am I right in saying that the lens should be set to min aperture and the camera run at Aperture priority? (or whatever aperture I set the lens to) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolly1 Posted August 14, 2006 Author Share Posted August 14, 2006 Thanks Vivek - the whole world loves a comedian 8D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik_loza Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Hahahaha... I wish that photo.net was like some of my other owners groups that lets you post avatars, smilies, etc. Then, we could have a flashing gif for "FEE", the "BGLOD", and other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolly1 Posted August 14, 2006 Author Share Posted August 14, 2006 OK, I want to put an empty baked bean can on a spam luncheon meat tin and am worried about the electrical contacts between the two. Any help from experienced photonutters? Also will the depth of field be effected if I use a can opener instead of a pin for the aperture? Over to you Vivek 8DD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolly1 Posted August 14, 2006 Author Share Posted August 14, 2006 Sooo, While Vivek is out back consulting his baked bean charts and spam tin compatibility tables does anybody else have a work-around for this question/problem .... can I use the camera on manual and suck it and see (tempting fate here Vivek) with the exposure? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mawz Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 This lens will not meter on the D70. You can however set the camera to manual, set aperture on the lens (and shutter on the body) and judge the exposure via the histogram from the shot. I do this a lot with my extensive collection of MF glass on my D50, with excellent results. <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/213329082/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.flickr.com/83/213329082_427f6397db.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Aug 9 Flowers 06" /></a> D50, 55mm f3.5 Micro-P.C AI'd, ISO 800, Manual with metering by Histogram. Vignetting added during RAW conversion for effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mawz Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 This lens will not meter on the D70. You can however set the camera to manual, set aperture on the lens (and shutter on the body) and judge the exposure via the histogram from the shot. I do this a lot with my extensive collection of MF glass on my D50, with excellent results. <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/213329082/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.flickr.com/83/213329082_427f6397db.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Aug 9 Flowers 06" /></a> D50, 55mm f3.5 Micro-P.C AI'd, ISO 800, Manual with metering by Histogram. Vignetting added during RAW conversion for effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_steranko Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Adam, I love that vignetting effect! Could you tell me how it was done? Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mawz Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Jim, I use Adobe Camera RAW as my RAW converter with PS CS2. In the Lens tab there's a 'Vignetting' slider designed to remove vignetting, however it can quite easily add vignetting by sliding it to the left. That's what I did here to add the vignetting to the image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivek iyer Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Clive, In your bio you say that you own a D70 and a D200. Why bother with a D70s? With a D70/70s you would see the fEE blinking in most of the "i" modes which operate only with a matrix chip. If you search here, you will find how to fool the D70/70s by adding a matrix chip- to lens, adaptor, etc and 'make' the camera see the light- literally. Otherwise, these are crippled cameras that won't meter with a 'chipless' lens in any mode. BTW, you can safely mount an Adaptall mount on these cameras. I use some (no metering) on my D70. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolly1 Posted August 15, 2006 Author Share Posted August 15, 2006 .....because, I bought a D70s for my DSLR novice father and don't want to buy him a lens he can't use. I didn't say it was 'my D70s' anyway. It was a simple enough question really and at the top I didn't feel it was necessary to explain myself. So long as he can use it manually and as Adam outlined position the histogram centrally by eye it will teach him the mechanics of the process and of histograms. A good learning process. I don't have access the either body or lens presently to test the setup. What I don't want to do is either give a lens that simply doesn't work or have to tell him (by phone) to push this prong in here/twist that lever there .. etc. I used to use a Tokina 17mm lens on the D70 with some kind of mount adapter, perhaps Adaptall - I don't recall, but have never seen the fEE message, ever. Quite nice lens but the Sigma 10-20mm Di came along and I jumped on that band-wagon until I can find a better lens. Adam, many thanks for the clear explanation - just what I was looking for, your image shows that it can work well. The vignetting effect can also be achieved for non-CS2 users with simply burning, or lightweight erasing over a black sub-layer. The only caveat I can think of with your example is that the D70 shows in the rear screen a histogram based on the green channel only and if you are shooting predominantly red roses, blue blossoms or straw colours you have to make the mental shift for those histogram positions. RAW should allow for post adjustment so long as you are prepared for it. I am of course making the assumption that the D70s also uses the green channel only for the on camera histogram. Erik, appreciate your valuable input too. Regards Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjdilip Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 Coming on this thread belatedly, would TTL or Auto flash work with the manual lens on the D70 or 70s? If there is a separate flash meter, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick_quiroga Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 I use the 2.8 adaptal version. I have no problem with setting exposure using the histogram and or LCD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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