fotografpeterlundberg.se Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Hi all, I am thinking of trying out some LF photography and found a Sinar for sale close where I live. Its a Sinar P with Super Angulon 90 mm, Symmar 150 and Symmar 240 mm. Wide angel bellows, Roll film holder, case, loading sack, tripod head, flash spot meeter,Polaroid back, and a set of 4x5 and 9x12 backs. Everything has been used in a studio environment and appears in good shape. Problem is - I have no idea what to pay for this? And is it a suitable camera. I?m planning to do some indoor portraits, and occasionally nature and archiectual pictures. ( And yes, I know there is field cameras on the market to ) Regards Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipling Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 The Sinar P is a heavy beast of a camera. It's not suitable for nature or architecture imo. You can do portraits, but only static portraits with little or no movement. You have to have it on a very steady Tripod. <p> The cost varies so I could only guess what a good deal on that set up might be - maybe $1500. The P is a really sturdy studio camera, so it should be ok, You might have to have the gears tightened up a bit. <p> If your really set on something mobile and you aren't doing high precision tilts and swings for critical focusing, as with some still life work, I'd say take a look at a Sinar F2, an Arca or my favorite camera ever, a Linhof Master Technika. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_andrews10 Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Provided everything is in good condition, then ?800-900 (about $1500-1600 US) would be a fair price. ?600 ($1200 US) would be a steal. What's the vendor asking for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografpeterlundberg.se Posted November 30, 2006 Author Share Posted November 30, 2006 About USD 2000. Actually a bit moore since the dollar is falling against the Skr now. Maybe I could have him to get down a bit in price and send a sturdy tripod with me as well. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedharris Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Actually, 2000 USD could be a very good price, OTOH it could be way high. It all depends on the lenses,their condition and what versions they are. The 90 SA could be an f8 or an f5.6 and are the Symmars,just that, Symmars or are they Symmar-S lenses? What about the meter, what is it; and the Polaroid back ... if it is a 545 great if it is a 500 it is worthless. You need to give us lots more detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 <I>The Sinar P is a heavy beast of a camera. It's not suitable for nature or architecture imo. You can do portraits, but only static portraits with little or no movement. You have to have it on a very steady Tripod.</I><P>Except for that last bit about the need for a good tripod, you are joking right? I mean I certainly would not choose it for backpacking, but it is fine for nature, architecture and portaiture -especially the latter if you have enough light --either natural or flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipling Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 <i> I mean I certainly would not choose it for backpacking, but it is fine for nature, architecture and portraiture -especially the latter if you have enough light </i> <p> No, I'm definitely not joking. I used a P for several years in the Studio. If my intent was to shoot nature, architecture and indoor portraits I'd pick a different camera. It's not just heavy, it's "HEAVY". A Sinar F2, a light field camera or a Linhof Technik, yes. A Sinar P for nature? Have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_ellis16 Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Where are you located? Obviously a fair price is greatly affected by your locale. Not that you are limited to buying locally but since this particular system is near where you live it would help to know where you live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografpeterlundberg.se Posted November 30, 2006 Author Share Posted November 30, 2006 I live in a small town i Sweden. Right now there is about 5-6 large format cameras (4x5) on our biggest internet sales corner.... They are fairly uncommond, and I guess not that popular now adays. So I dont want to end up with something I cant re-sale if I decide not to keep it. But there always is the photo.net classifieds I guess? Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicaglow Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 From what I've seen, $1500 - $2500 would be a reasonable price for the P. They are superb cameras. Once you use them, you won't want to ever use anything else. I have an X camera and love it for its solidness and precision. No other LF camera I own comes close. Accessories are usually quite expensive, but it sounds like you would have the basics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipling Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 "No other LF camera I own comes close" <p> what other LF cameras do you own? I have an Arca Swiss and have used Linhof. Both are just as good as Sinar imo, maybe better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografpeterlundberg.se Posted November 30, 2006 Author Share Posted November 30, 2006 Hey, hey guys - take it easy. No war please. The lenses are 150 Symmar-s, 240 symmar s multicoated, and the super angulon. Polaroid back seams to be two 545:s. RegardsPeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_pistor Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Not as a proceeding in the war, but to keep things in the right way: there's nothing in LF, a sinar P is not good for, if you manage the transport, and provide the support. I came across a lot cameras, better in weight/functional ratio (actually a matter of individual preferences) maybe some of better/sexier look, no camera better if you count for function but not for looks and transportability. And especially for architecture you appreciate the easy operation if you got the beast on site. Regards, Martin P.S.: Seen from the owner/seller point of view, there are no "fair" prices anymore. The decrease of marketvalue is ridiculous. Fun for buyers still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_pistor Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 ...no camera better.... Handheld operation excluded for obvious reasons;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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