How to capture Raw files on 20D

Hello All,

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I have set my 20D to shoot RAW. I have been able to capture the JPEG

files. However the images that I have in RAW files are not seen in

photoshop elements or Microsoft scanner and hence I am not able to

download from the camera.

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What am I doing wrong? I am trying to download straight from the

camera, (no card reader).

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Thanks in advance!

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Regards

Get and use a card reader. You think you should not need one (many would agree that you should not NEED one) but you do.

 

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Roger

Thanx Roger, however Is it not possible to download RAW files straight from the camera? It is hard to believe !

You should be able to view the images in the software that came with the camera. You

then need to copy the folder onto the computer and open the RAW files up from there. You

can't opn the RAW files up straight off the camera in photoshop basically.

The RAW images are there, but their presence can only be seen by software which is capable of viewing RAW files. Photoshop Elements 2 is not RAW capable, so cannot view them, but Elements 3 or 4 can.<P>If I browse a folder full of RAW images in Photoshop CS2, I can see them. If I browse the same folder with Elements 2, the folder appears empty.<p>You can use the conversion software that came with your Canon to view the RAW files and convert them to jpg or tiff so you can work with them in Elements. Microsoft now has a RAW-capable viewer available, it works well, but you'll need Windows XP <i>with Service Pack 2</i> to use it. <p>Get a card reader! There are no downsides, only upsides. Files download much, much faster, you don't waste your camera battery, and you'll never knock your camera from a cluttered computer desk to the floor.

If you have the right software (Photoshop CSx, Elements 3 or 4, Canon DPP - which should have come with the camera, etc) you'll be able to see the RAW files. As others have said - get a card reader. While it is possible to download direct from camera, it's much faser and easier to use a card reader. A card reader will only cost you about $20 - nothing really.

 

There are some decent RAW editors available as freeware - I don't have a link, sorry, but google Raw Shooter Essentials for one that is free and quite good. Download this, and you should have no problem with seeing your RAW images.

 

Hope this helps.

You still may have to download a plugin from Adobe, I needed that to view and edit RAW files on PS CS for some reason. BTW...the PS CS2 plugin won't work, make sure it is the plugin for CS version. I have a 20D and use a cardreader as well. Good luck.

Use the software that came with the camera.

Skip, you needed to download the CS update because the 20D's ".CR2" RAW file type didn't exist when CS was introduced.

I use the EOS Viewer Utility that came with my 20D to download my RAW files directly from the camera to the computer. I then process the RAW files with Digital Photo Professional (DPP) that also came with my 20D. Then I process the JPG files in Adobe Elements.

By any chance, is your camera set on "auto". I think you have to use "P" or "TV" or "AV" or "M" to get a raw file. At least that's how it works on my 350D.

 

I usually don't use a card reader. The "Camera Window" software that came with the camera downloads raw files, and both ZoomBrowser and DPP are able to convert the raw files to jpeg.

Your camera has two transfer modes: Normal and PTP. If you want Windows to be able to see the folders containing the raw files you need to switch your camera to PTP mode and then it'll act as another storage device to which you'll have full access. Otherwise use Normal mode with the Canon software (the Canon software won't find the camera in PTP mode).

Thank you for all responses.

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I take the recommendation to get a card reader, as I transition toward the Digital.

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Yes, as someone mentioned in the folder, I could see only JPEG files and no RAW files, but can be viewed on the Camera. When I deleted all the jpeg files on card, I could only see an empty folder.

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I have the EOSViewer utility, however somehow when I was using it, I did not se any method to import RAW Files in it and thought it did not support it. and then decided to look into PS elements.

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When I clicked on RAW, it kind of brought up a window called "RAW" and showed differrent related screens like Viewfinder etc, but nothing was obvious how to download the RAW file.

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If someone experienced this before and knows how to fix it, great, otherwise I will anyway be meddling with it more soon.

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Thank you and regards,

+Lalit

You would be able to copy the raw using card reader from your CF to your HDD but still you won't be able to see it unless your image viewer or editor is not capable to decode a RAW image. If you don't have card reader you will have to use USB cable (provided with your camera) and right software (example Canon Viewer Utility) to transfer images from your CF to HDD.

 

Viewer Utility and DPP comes with your camera. Also available to download from canon website.

Use viewer utility to get images from your camera to your computer.

and use DPP (or photoshop CS, you will have to buy it) to edit and convert to jpg.

 

Mohammad

>>Yes, as someone mentioned in the folder, I could see only JPEG files and no RAW files, but can be viewed on the Camera. When I deleted all the jpeg files on card, I could only see an empty folder. <<

 

The deal is this:

 

Canon wrote a lousy WIA driver for Windows. It can't see both JPEG and RAW on the camera at the same time. You can switch between PTTP and Normal and see one or the other, but not both at the same time with any application that uses the WIA.

 

Card readers typically use their own drivers (Windows XP will normally have those drivers already included). Some other applications also use their own drivers. But Elements and Photoshop uses the WIA.

You need to download a plugin from Adobe to view cr2 files.Will work with camera software however printing through canon software or photoshop is not as good as printing through printers own software which all too often does not support RAW.I personally convert to tiff and print with printer software.

I use the utilities available on XP for viewing pics. I choose the 20D option to shoot in RAW and small jpg with each shot. This offers speed and versatility, with little compromise of CF space. As a workflow pattern I plug the CF card into the cardreader. XP automatically recognizes the action and a window opens with the CF files displayed. Each shot has a jpg file and a larger RAW file. I sort the files by 'type', then I right click on the top jpg files. Then I choose 'open with', and use 'windows picture and file viewer'. This utility opens a lot faster than photoshop CS and is useful for screening the pics. I then scan through each of the jpg files. From there I decide which RAW files are worth keeping. I delete the ones that are trash, and then using XP file manager I transfer the keeper files to the hard disc. There is a timesaving utility in XP called 'send to' which allows you to transfer a group of files to a folder on the hard disc with a single click. To get there you right click after highlighting all the files you want to transfer, choose 'send to', and presto, all files are transferred. It's quicker than dragging and dropping. XP allows you to customize the 'send to' utility so that you can transfer any files to any folder. If you need advice on how to customize 'send to' I can go through it for you step by step. I call the initial landing point 'transient download', and after working on the new files they are sorted and moved to separate folders. For me 'transient download' is a desktop on the hard disc, with files sent elsewhere after sorting. By avoiding the full photoshop program for initial sorting, the workflow is a lot faster. By screening the jpg files first I can delete the vast majority of pics that aren't worth my time (or hard disc space). You can buy a separate program for saving files but I don't find need for it.