brambor Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 I've had this Tri-x shot of striper fishermen. I took the shot about amonth ago. It was taken by Canon 1V. For some reason when I shoot BWwith the 1V I get these streaks going horizontal. I'm attributing itto the motorized film transport. I never get them when shooting colorfilm. It makes for an interesting effect that, albeit undesired,sometimes works for me. <br>Today, while goofing around, I ran the shot through neon glow effect.I'm not a big fan of effects but the result seems better than theoriginal. What do you think? <br>Original: <br><imgsrc="http://www.widereach.net/rodina/images/2005/other/striperfishing2.jpg"><br>With Neon Glow Effect: <br><imgsrc="http://www.widereach.net/rodina/images/2005/other/striperneonglow.jpg"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brambor Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 or here a lighter version: <br><img src="http://www.widereach.net/rodina/images/2005/other/striperneonglowlighter.jpg"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence_bochkis Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Certainly interesting, I'll grant you that. Somewhat 1870's-ish. I would however mask those two little goolps near the bottom right corner, they look completely out of place with the neon effect. On another note, I can't figure why you'd be getting those streaks with motorized transport. Although I don't have a 1v, I do have an Eos, and I've used plenty of other Eos's...no such streaks on any film I've ever used. Could it be some sort of bizarre leak in your developing canister? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brambor Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 Would a leak in a canister produce geometrically straight horizontal lines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fran_ois_courtois Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 what is "neon glow"? A photoshop script? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brambor Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 Yes. It's under Filter-Artistic-Neon Glow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmishkar Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 how about static electricity? i believe this can be a problem in cold, dry weather with a motor driven camera. that's one reason i don't use a motor, so i can control the speed of the film advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brambor Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 It's somewhat of a mystery to me but I'm not losing any sleep over it. I shoot BW with M6 or M3. The Canon choice was a fluke but it reminded me of the time when it happened the first time. It's weird that I go through rolls of color film and never have it. I also develop all my bw in the same tank but it only happened for the two rolls of film that went through Canon. Here are some more examples of the horizontal lines. They are pretty much on every frame: <br> <img src="http://www.widereach.net/rodina/images/2005/other/lines1.jpg"> <br> <img src="http://www.widereach.net/rodina/images/2005/smyvonneatbu092005.4.jpg.jpg"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve g Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Could be damage to the emulsion from something caught in the felt light trap. Seeing as how you are at the beach, it could be sand. Did you load the camera at the beach? Also was this a self-loaded roll of tri-x or store-bought? If self-rolled, how old was the cassette? Have you had this problem in any other location with any other film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brambor Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 Store bought Tri-x 36 exposures, loaded at home, the bottom shot is at Boston University. I have others from the roll that were taken at public market... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_shriver Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Boy, that looks more like a scanner artifact to me. Does the Canon 1v have motorized film rewind? Perhaps the shutter curtain was leaking as the spool rewound past it? This sure doesn't look like any sort of scratches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brambor Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 Scanner artifacts? What causes scanner artifacts? I will try re-scanning tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry h-l Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 It also looks like a scanner issue to me. Many scanners have problems with silver-based B&W films. Looks too even to me to be a film/processing issue. Try a different scanner, see if it "goes away." If it is on the negative, you should be able to see it with a loupe, or a reversed 50mm camera lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_moravec1 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 If you get the stripes at 1/500 and 1/1000 the shutter curtains leak. If it does not show at slower speeds, ie color, the point is proved. Either replace them or stay away from high shutter speeds. The second repair person is working on my 111f for this very problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrankin Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 1. Are you processing your own negatives? I remember squeegeeing my Tri-X film a bit too snugly after washing many years ago, and getting results that looked a lot like yours. The still-wet emulsion picked up streaks very much like these. 2. Are you cleaning your film with a liquid film cleaner before scanning? The horizontal bands could come from passing the film through some sort of wiping process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brambor Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 Ok. I sheepishly admit that I displayed a lousy attention to detail. My family life is very busy and sometimes I only have a tiny window to work on my hobbies. <br> Tonight, I pulled out the sleeve with negatives and scanned the fishing shot. There were no streaks. Here is the scanned negative: <br> <img src="http://www.widereach.net/rodina/images/2005/other/striperfishing2.jpg"> <br> The issue was probably with the scanner. What I should have done was reboot the computer and try to scan again. I did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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