andy_piper2 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Just thought I'd start a thread for all those who made wildly inaccurate predictions about the M8 in the past 2 years to come forward and confess their sins. Some possible subject headings: 1. Price. All those who said the M-digital could not come in under $6000, or $7000, or $8000 are invited to step forward and comment on the $4,795 actual price 2. Megapixels. All those who claimed the the M8 would be outdated before it was introduced because the standard would be raised to 15 or 18 or 22 megapixels by this time are invited to step forward and comment on the fact that the M8 arrives at JUST THE SAME TIME as everyone else's 10 Mpixel cameras (Nikon, Sony Pentax, Canon). And those 15/18/22 Mpixel cameras are.....? 3. Sensor and crop factor. All those who claimed the M8 would use the same sensor as the DMR are invited to step forward and comment in light of this: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0609/06091501kodakccdleicam8.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__jon__ Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliot_rosen1 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 "Just thought I'd start a thread for all those who made wildly inaccurate predictions about the M8 in the past 2 years to come forward and confess their sins." Don't hold your breath. You know what they say about Leica Forum members: "frequently wrong but never in doubt". Me included. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 the only nah saying i did was that it will probably have a useless top shutter speed of 1000th and the usual 50th sync. Glad to see I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul hart Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Suggested confession number 4: step forward all those who have said they would never buy one but know fine well they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1 Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 I never commented in advance but... "2. Megapixels" - you do realise that "everyone else's 10 Mpixel" cameras are the lowest amateur models (D80, 400D, Sony Alpha), right? And that the pro models are between 12 and 16.7? I don't think megapixels matter all that much, but that doesn't mean you should talk nonsense like that. and "3. Sensor and crop factor" - can't blame anyone for thinking that as even the Leica officials at Perpignan just two weeks back, when they were showing the M8, said it was the same sensor as the DMR... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny massey Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 I predicted (correctly) that it would have it's own forum thread generator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_piper2 Posted September 16, 2006 Author Share Posted September 16, 2006 Jonas: what quite a few people here said was that the 'standard' would be above 10 Mpixels - not the 'state of the art'. The 'standard' is what most people buy - pros as backup, advanced amateurs as main camera. e.g. the Nikon D200, the Canon 30D. Absolutely Canon makes a 16.6 Mpixel camera - that is under 1% of the DSLR market. Is 1% of anything the "standard"? Several people went so far as to claim that "22 megapixels" would be the standard by this time for "35mm-based" digitals - and it's where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brambor Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 I think I claimed/wished it would be full frame. Oh well. I sold some stuff this week and actually had enough to buy the M8. I decided not to buy it even though it looks awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinay_patel Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 I predicted everything about the camera correctly. What I failed to anticipate was how much more bashing would take place the moment the M8 went from rumour to reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_w. Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 "Just thought I'd start a thread for all those who made wildly inaccurate predictions about the M8 in the past 2 years to come forward and confess their sins." VP, How could you have communicated your predictions when you have only been posting for six-months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinay_patel Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 The same way everyone else has been making predictions the last six months. The M8 was only officially stated yesterday. How hard a concept would that have been for you to figure out by yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nels Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 OK, let's give a free cookie to everyone who made all the right predictions re. M8. Make sure you eat it before removing the bottom plate on your M8 to swap cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piotr_panne Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 <<<I predicted everything about the camera correctly. >>> Wow. You must have to had to fondle two crystal balls for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joel_matherson Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Andy, you forgot one. Those that said a metal shuttered M8 could never be as quiet as Leicas cloth M shutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rp_johnson Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Hey, Nels is back! Nobody said that the M8 would have this effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene_e._mccluney Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Jonas Vincken , sep 16, 2006; 05:36 a.m. I never commented in advance but... "2. Megapixels" - you do realise that "everyone else's 10 Mpixel" cameras are the lowest amateur models (D80, 400D, Sony Alpha), right? And that the pro models are between 12 and 16.7? I don't think megapixels matter all that much, but that doesn't mean you should talk nonsense like that. There are exactly three models of 35mm form factor cameras with sensors that have more than 10.1mp. Those would be the Nikon D2-xs, the Canon 5d and the Canon 1DSmk2, and 2 of these cameras are more expensive than the M8. Gene McCluney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 <i><blockquote> All those who claimed the the M8 would be outdated before it was introduced because the standard would be raised to 15 or 18 or 22 megapixels by this time are invited to step forward and comment on the fact that the M8 arrives at JUST THE SAME TIME as everyone else's 10 Mpixel cameras (Nikon, Sony Pentax, Canon). </blockquote> </i><p> You're referring to everyone else's <u>low end, $900 10Mpixel cameras</u>, right? <p> Andy, if you can't find three people claiming that the low-end standard in 2006 would be 15-22 megapixels, will you be offering the mea culpa? Can you find two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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