Should I get kit lens?

I'm thinking of getting the 20D, and the two cheapest prices were 2,000

for only body or 2080 for body and kit lens. This is AUD so the 80

difference is about 57 USD. I already have many good primes to use,

so I'm certain I won't bother with the kit lens. However, seeing its only

80 more, would it be better to get that and try sell it? Would that work?

Thanks. (kit lens is 18-55)

heh. . .is the lens less than the sales tax (vat) on the body?

 

heh. . .80 AUD it is only driving up the entire price by a measly 4%.

 

heh. . . 80 AUD. Is that like 80 Jr Frosties?

 

heh. . .80 AUD.Is that one DVD player? Or a 1GB CF card?

 

I say go for it.

I dunno, but I think that it might be difficult to unload in Australia without making a loss. Most people who buy a 20D or 350D and who want the kit lens will have bought it already - the only market would be someone who has dropped theirs and broken it (and doesn't want to take the opportunity to upgrade!) It won't fit on any camera but 20D, 350D, and 300D.

 

I can't see the point in buying something you don't want (and others probably don't want,) just because it's cheap.

 

(Also, the advice widely given on photo.net is to hold off on the 20D until the new model is announced (expected very soon) - then you can either get the new camera, or the 20D at a runout price.)

Thanks for the suggestion, I'm definitely holding off for a while, my film slr still works well atm...

So what you really meant to ask was whether to get a digital camera. Like you, I have a few perfectly good film cameras, but decided to wade into the digital waters with a Rebel XT and the kit lens. It didn't get much use the first few months, but I am now 90% digital. The ability to control the entire process, from image capturing, to image manipulation, to image printing, is just incredible. If you can't afford the 20D, start off with the drebel and kit lens. The lens is a good value if you don't already have an extreme wide angle zoom. It will tide me over until my wallet recovers from a recent purchase of the 24-105, and I can get the 17-40 L lens.

Hi, 20D`s are being sold in Oz for AUD1649, I`ve seen kit lenses sell for AUD150 on Ebay. personally I`d wait see what thses new models are soon to be released. then shop around for better deals.

>> I already have many good primes to use, so I'm certain I won't bother with the kit lens.

 

Which primes do you have in the 18-55 range?

 

>> However, seeing its only 80 more, would it be better to get that and try sell it? Would that work?

 

It will probably work but I don't see the reason to do it.

 

 

 

Happy shooting,

Yakim.

20D for only 1649 AUD?!?! Are you sure that's the new price?

Yakim hit the nail on the head...do you have any lenses that will give you the coverage of 18mm?

 

Do you like to shoot at 28mm with your film camera? Or do you not need/want to go that wide?

 

I've got a 20D and the kit lens. I don't really like the cheap feel or the slow aperture of the kit lens....but for less than $100 I get a wide view that would cost me $700 with another lens.

If you can get a good deal on the *other* kit lens (the 17-85 IS) with a 20D body, that's that one I went for.

 

Actually, I ended up upgrading to the 17-85 shortly before selling my Digital Rebel and 18-55 to a co-worker, who is just getting his feet wet in digital SLRs. Then I bought the 20D as a body-only.

 

If I hadn't already had the 17-85mm, I would have purchased it with the 20D, as the upgraded kit. The 18-55mm is OK as a kit lens with the original Digital Rebel (6MP sensor), but the 8 MP sensors on the 20D and Digital Rebel XT shows its shortcomings even more. That makes the 17-85 a better match for the upgraded sensor on these more recent bodies.

 

Also, for those that say, "wait for the next best thing", I bought my Digital Rebel on first day of availability in the States, used it for about two years, shooting about 3000+ frames with it, collecting some nice glass along the way (28, 50, and 85 f/1.8, 70-300 DO IS), and moved to the 20D when my pocketbook allowed. I've been shooting with the 20D since last Fall, and it really doesn't bother me that something better might come out in a month or two from now. It doesn't affect how good the 20D performs one iota.

 

The 10-22 EF-S is on my shopping list, now, and it doesn't bother me either that it will only work on a crop-factor body. I want to *use* the lenses (and body) I own, not worry about their near-term market worth.

 

On the other hand, I'll not touch the usual 3rd-party glass with a ten foot pole. When it comes time to trade up, Canon glass holds its resale value far better than the Sigma, etc. comparable stuff out there. That's just the reality of the marketplace.

Just one way, they have a good rep.

 

http://stores.ebay.com.au/DigitalRev-AU-Photography-Shop_Digital-SLR-Cameras-D-SLR_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQftidZ2QQtZkm

The Brit magazine Digital Camera has been trashing the Canon,

but as it turns out, because they think the kit lens is so much

worse than the Nikon kit lens for the 70. This made me peeved,

but also very shy about the softness of the 18-55 mm lens. Then

I started to look for replacements. But as I went through the list of

great to superb Canon lenses covering this range, I starting

looking at the weight of the replacements. Most are over 500

grams, and many of them are up to a kilo in mass. I now love my

cheap, plastic, weightless kit lens. On a metal rock like the 20D,

it makes a nice package, and, you know, the quality of the

images ain't all that bad.

Just looking over the old posting, and thought I'd add that this discussion is a perennial one on almost every Canon website. I went back and looked at some reviews of the 18-55mm kit lens when it came out, and it actually holds up quite well in both sharpness and distortion. And, as I and others have pointed out, even the magazines that don't like the lens publish a lot of pictures taken with it. The new 17-55mm lens is really an L class lens, but Canon have apparently decided not to use that designation for EF-S lenses. It's a super lens, but the price is a lot more than the kit lens. The 17-85 IS is a wonderful lens, but actually has more barrel distortion than the kit lens at its widest. Still, that is what I bought when I moved up from the kit. It's exactly the equivalent of the famous 28-135 lenses on the full size sensor or film cameras. You can travel with it and really not need any other lens at all.