Where is the future of Leica M body or film camera?

"the price comparison would have to be between prints by the same photographer with

different printing methods"

 

If you're talking about contemporary prints by a currently working photographer the

medium is irrelevant - that's the point. There are many prints which are available only in

digital form, so comparison isn't an issue. I'm not sure why young guys like you Al are so

conservative about this - why not take a lead from the older and more experienced guys

like

Klein and Eggleston?

well, getting a high price for it, anyway. in cases where a print is available as both digital

and wet prints, i can imagine that for now, the digital print may be priced lower, but in the

future people look back and chuckle at how silly it was that the better print cost less, or

something like that. stuff like that always happens.

Thanks, Doris! Flattery works! As long as the Social Security checks keep coming I don't really have to worry about selling prints. I'll be 63 on November ninth, the kids are grown, and the house is paid for free and clear. I'm having fun though. I probably should follow up on some of these offers to do a gallery show but I'm lazy.

 

I'm old enough to remember the pleasure of printing on DuPont Varilour, the sadness when DuPont stopped making photo papers. Hell, I even remember when DuPont introduced Varilour to replace Varigam, which was the original VC paper. I still print with Varilour filters.

"in cases where a print is available as both digital and wet prints, i can imagine that for

now, the digital print may be priced lower"

 

The artist dictates the medium, not the buyer - so the digi v wet argument is

redundant (outside of the small-time/small-town crafts market) with current work. If the

work is strong enough it'll sell and it doesn't matter if

you use your own blood (Marc Quinn), elephant excrement (Chris

Ofili), or your soiled underwear (Tracy Emin).

<i>(outside of the small-time/small-town crafts market)</i>

 

<p>Isn't that what we're mainly dealing with here? Unusual materials sell much better in

big cities, AFAIK.

Doris, please, try and resist staying on-topic and share more details about your personal life

and what pleases you. I need to know more!

Film is dead. Long live film!

"Isn't that what we're mainly dealing with here?"

 

Aizan, apparently not. Michael used the term "High Art Silver Print", and Al referred to the

"art market" rather than the crafts market.

 

"share more details about your personal life and what pleases you"

 

Brad, it would be a pleasure. In an ever changing (and sometimes combined) order, drugs,

dancing, and (mutually) degrading sex......

Hmmm, that was considerably more information than I needed.

"You might want to spend $100 to put cruise control on a car worth $1000 but if you were spending $1000 to retrofit a $100 camera it's more likely you'd just get a new camera."

 

Perhaps that's how some people might think, and for those people there would always be the option of buying a new dSLR. But I'll bet there are folks who would happily pay even $3000 to get a Leicaflex SL/SL2 converted to a full-frame digital rather than buying an R9 for $2500 and a 1.4x-crop DMR for additional $6500, or even $3300 for a 5D and another $100 for an adaptor where they've got to stop the lens down manually and maybe file off the back of a couple lenses to get them to mount. I'd pay $3000 to convert my Nikon F to a full-frame dig before I'd spend $1000 on a 1.5x D70S where I've got to hand-meter everything, let alone the cost of a 1.5x D2X that's as big as a hardback dictionary.

Wow, Doris! You and I have more in common than I could ever imagine, life-stylewise! Maybe we could "do it in the street" and invite Brad along with his digital point and shoot to convert the reality of our love and pasion into moody dark murkiness with metallic looking highlights.

What the hell! The obvious next step is to ask if there are any women reading this who'd like to get in on my sef-portrait series while joining me in some degrading sex. We could easily pose it so your face doesn't show. Then we wouldn't have to invite Brad ;-)

This is turning into a Polish Standup

Or a Dutch Sit-com.

The End Of The Argument-How many motion pictures do you see that are shot on digital? Distributed on digital? Kodak basically owns Hollywood,and they continue to spend millions on film research,for HollyWood use. And that research will trickle doiwn to still photography. Same story goes for Fuji,who supply most of the motion picture film for the rest of the world.

"If the work is strong enough it'll sell and it doesn't matter if you use your own blood (Marc Quinn), elephant excrement (Chris Ofili), or your soiled underwear (Tracy Emin)."

 

A bunch of budding Michaelangelos. Buth I think then excrement has more talent than the "artist" in these cases. Apparently, in some circles, there is a thin line between art and crap. :-)

A hand created silver image or a print from a letterhead printer.

 

Hmm what should i spend my money on. Tough choice.

Yep they can also print letterheads.

Your fine art print and letterhead to match. Go for it duds cheaper by the dozen.

Water is the most hazardous chemical used in film processing. Lots of people drown in it eavery year!

 

Robert