christina_davies Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 Before allowing me to purchase a Digital SLR my father wanted me tolearn how to compose a picture on an inexpensive digital point andshoot camera. Now I'd like to know if you think I have any talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christina_davies Posted November 26, 2005 Author Share Posted November 26, 2005 Another image that I manipulated with Photoshop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christina_davies Posted November 26, 2005 Author Share Posted November 26, 2005 Let me know what you think of this image manipulated with Photoshop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armando_roldan Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 I think the lined background is kind of strange. Maybe you should of just placed it out of focus instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christina_davies Posted November 26, 2005 Author Share Posted November 26, 2005 I thought using a motion blur instead of a standard blur effect would add something unique to the image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie_caswell Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 Tell daddie to buy a DSLR. You've passed his test with flying colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stnoonan Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 Really nice Christina! How about a little tutorial on how you composited those shots? It looks like you could teach us a few things! <p>Sean <br><a href="http://www.stnphotography.com">www.stnphotography.com</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christina_perez Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 Thanks, I've never written a tutorial so I wouldn't know where to start. Cee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neal_thatcher Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 Christina, I think the background is a little too much and is more distracting than anything. A motion blur can be a great effect if used a little more subtly. That said, I know that it is pretty hard to get separation from your background w/ a point and shoot, that will be much easier when you get your SLR. I would also suggest that maybe you use the lens blur or a more subtle effect. Sometimes less is more. Good luck w/ Dad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynette_bradshaw Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 Tell daddy to open the wallet...I love what you've done...i love your creativity./I love the baseball girl that each image is a lower opacity than the other...it adds interest...the single girl w/the blur looks a little funny to me, but i still like it...i think its unique...Keep up the great work...you are on your way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark newcombe www.mcnphoto Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 wanna job? People lap these up, bolw them up, frame them, sell them and buy your own DSLR or get dad to go you 1/2's in a d2x. Good job. Tone the back ground down a bit. cheers Mark www.mcnphoto.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 I agree with all the comments above. Parents will lap up these images. Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankfan Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_morris Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Hi You can learn with a old 35mm SLR , try and learn photography not photoshop . To be a sport photographer these day is luck and a lot of money . But it worth it , so go out and take pictures and learn from your mistakes . We all did it . All the best , marc :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark newcombe www.mcnphoto Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I don't understand the luck part but agree with the $$$$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_wag Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 First of all, I hope your father is a photog - otherwise, I don't see the point of this 'test'. Seems to me as if the people who post here have never actually shot sports in their lives. I agree with the only real photog here who suggested that you learn photography, not photoshop. You're 'okay' - that's considering you're using a point 'n shoot. You're not incredible. The day I'd even consider saying "go tell your parents to buy you a D2X" is when you can demonstrate your ability to compose within the camera - which is what your father apparently told you to do. He didn't say go edit some mediocre pictures and let's see if I should buy you CS2. What I would suggest is that you go online to GettyImages or other sites, and study the 'good' pictures. And no, not all sports pictures on Getty are good. I'm not saying you're not a reasonable photographer. I'd say you're better than the average person, but I hesitate to be as enthusiastic as others. Work on actual composition, and let's see some originals next time from your D50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark newcombe www.mcnphoto Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Dave, I hope that wasn't directed at me (the only real photog here). Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christina_davies Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 Actually I have shot a lot of 35mm film and have spent more than my fair share of time working in my fathers darkroom, so I consider myself to be experienced with both film and digital photography. Personally I prefer digital photography and believe that manipulating a digital image with Photoshop is no different than manipulating a neg in the darkroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neal_thatcher Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Thank God we have Dave the REAL photographer to set us all straight. He is a legend in sports photography...at least a legend in his own mind! I am a professional photographer and take offense at your ripping on everyone on this forum. I think I am done with this forum now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christina_davies Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 I was also offended by Dave's comments, I thought I was being girly but now I am begining to realize that he along with a few others posting in this forum are just stuck on themselves. I came to this forum for advice to help better myself as a photographer, but now I am questioning if being a part of this forum is even worth the effort. Surely there has to be a place where a newbie can get advice without having to sift through the egos. Cee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdcarma Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Howdy Cee, I like them, great start with a point and shoot. Keep up the good work, and Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark newcombe www.mcnphoto Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Well said Neale and Christina. I'm a professional aswell, maybe some people need to pull thier heads out of thier ass hey. Keep shooting. Regards Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_morris Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Hi Christina Hope you did not take affence to what i said . I looked at the forum and the other photographers all have a point . But we should not kid our self 's with auto focus and a telephoto F2.8 lens you can get good results. I would start with a 70 or 80 to 200 or 210 mm 2.8 lens . You do need a bit of luck . To be in the right place at the right time is lucky some times . I have been a photographer since 1986 and done many top sporting events all over the world . So just keep shooting and enjoy it . All the best marc :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christina_davies Posted December 2, 2005 Author Share Posted December 2, 2005 When I first became interested photography (my father's profession) he decided to teach me the basics using a camera that was completely manual, so I would understand what is required to capture, compose and process an image. Since then I have worked with several different camera formats and I have personally developed, processed and printed each of my photographs in my father's darkroom. So I think that it is safe to say that I know how to compose, develop and process an image. Right now I happen to be working with digital media and as far as I am concerned working with Photoshop is no different than working in my father's darkroom. I am very good with Photoshop and I am just as good in the darkroom, so what's the problem with that? I use Photoshop to manipulate an image, but I still have to create the image using a camera. I do not call myself a professional photographer, I do not need to label myself as others do to prove that I have just as much talent as anyone else posting in this forum. Cee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_wag Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 Then why is there a problem of having to prove to your father that you can compose a picture? If you had the experience you now claim, why the original post? My comments, however negative, are in fact what I think of what you posted (if you can only take offense and not stop to consider what it is that I said - if you cannot, then it would seem as if you posted in search of accolades, not actual criticism) - that if you were indeed 'new', which you now say you are not, you needed to work on actual composition and not Photoshop. If you post pictures expecting only the type of nice, but not very useful, comments, then make that very clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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