Am I Crazy to Buy All EF-S Stuff Now?

I you're a photographer (as opposed to a camera collector) and make photographs, buy what

you need to express your vision.<BR><P>

 

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Brad, you can easily be both. JUST THE FACT we post to a Web-based, virtual forum means we have a lot of geek in us to begin with. We make full use of the L and R side of our brains.

I guess it partly depends how much you shoot wide angle. Many have solved the conundrum by continuing to shoot film for wider angles, and using lenses that will be good on either format otherwise. Thre's no doubt that EF-S lenses (except the 18-55 kit which sells in high volume) are priced so that Canon can recover R&D costs rapidly.

EF-S lenses are not <em>crazy</em> on a 20D.

I currently have 17-85 IS, 50/1.4 and 70-200/2.8 IS and am very happy

with all of them.<p>

 

If I was into super wide I would consider the 10-22, but I think

a 28/1.8 is next on my list.

The 17-85 is the lens that is on my camera most of the time btw.

While f4 is rarely fast enough for indoor shots, with IS I can

get good/useful shots at 1/2s.<p>

 

If I ever buy a FF DSLR the 17-85 could simply remain on the 20D,

and if I were selling the 20D the 17-85 could go with it - but I

think I'd keep the 20D - especially for use with the 70-200 ;-)<p>

 

If/when I add a FF to my kit choosing b/w the 24-70/2.8 and 24-105/4 IS will be tricky...<p>

<i>"Jim -- by the summer of 2007 you'll have a 20D full frame equivalent for under $2000. Mark my words."

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"Ken, what you said."

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"I tend to agree with Ken..."</I>

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Okay, I'll say it again. <b>"You can argue the other way all you want, but you'll just be wrong until proven otherwise."</b> Time will tell all. :~)

Ya know, if y'all think like that, I'll take your tired old EF-S lenses now. Payin' 10 cents on the dollar. Get it while you can, I'm goin broke just thinkin' about it.

>> Jim -- by the summer of 2007 you'll have a 20D full frame equivalent for under $2000. Mark my words.

 

 

Jim -- by the summer of 2007 you'll have a 20D 1.6X equivalent for under $600. Mark my words.

 

Happy shooting,

Yakim.

Plenty of people will tell you you are crazy whatever you do (see above), so don't let that worry you. EF-S 10~22 is the only Canon way, and arguably the best way, to get really wide angle on a 20D, and there's no EF choice. I just bought one for that reason. Optical quality seems pretty good, not built quite like an L lens but seems as good as the best non-L lenses, like the 100/2.8USM. I'm tempted by the 60/2.8, which has received rave reviews for its optical quality, handles much better than my old faithful 50/2.5 and without the need for the LSC, and again seems to be built to a high standard. For me the 17~85 is a less interesting lens, because I have the 17~40 and will soon buy the new 24~105 (which with the 10~22 will probably mean that I make less use of the 17~40, which has been my standard lens on the 20D). I see no reason to be interested in the 18~55, and I shall continue to use my other EF lenses on the 20D. So I might well find myself with two EF-S lenses out of my total of ten or so, and if neither I nor anyone else in the family has any use for them in a few years time, I'll sell them for what I can get, just as I have done with consumer-grade lenses that I have moved on from. It's no big philosophical issue, for me they're just the tools that enable me to take photographs.

<I>"by the summer of 2007 you'll have a 20D 1.6X equivalent for under $600."</I>

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That would be sweet.

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BTW, I haven't sold my old non EF-S lense, so I'm ready to upgrade any time. It's just that I don't think it will happen as fast as some of you.

I can see that canon will be force to go ff with midsize prosumer cameras within 1-3 years not because they wont to its because competition like the new sony ff point and shoot other will fellow shortly it will be standard since SLR are more versital than point and shoot its around the corner

It wa said:

Canon's 28-135mm came out forever ago in 1997, before anyone had a digital camera. At the time, it was ~$450 new. It STILL goes for $400 (used) on Ebay, despite that it has no wide angles on a 1.6X crop and isn't particularly sharp. >>>

 

You're forgetting that the 28-135 will work on almost all EOS camera bodies, film and digital. The EF-S series lenses will not. That kind of interchangeability helps a lens maintain its value. It's also an IS lens, as well.

I'm a little surprised by all the nay-sayers here. Are you buying the lenses for resale value or are you buying them to take pictures with? What you've indicated you're interested in buying makes for a nice 2-lens travel kit. As long as your 20D works, your lenses will still be of value to you.

Yes, my *three* lens travel kit: 10-22 EFS, 17-85 EFS, 70-300 DO IS. Man, what a killer 'travel lite' combination that is. It all fits in a top-loader field 'hip' bag, and covers (as they say in the radio vernacular) "DC-to-daylight".

Hello,

Not sure this is an answer, but another question. Is there any reason not to use a EF-S lens on a FF camera assuming there is a way to attach the Lens.

 

Is there a way to use a EF-S lens on a FF camera? a converter of some sort.

 

Take care,

--Mike

If you put an EF-S lens on a full frame camera there is a great likelyhood that the mirror will colide with the lens' rear ellement. Even if not, the lens' image circle will probably not cover the full frame. No simple adapter will make it work, however if you can find a 1.4x teleconverter that wil accept EF-S lenses (I know of none) that could then be attached to the FF camera. Since EF-S lenses are generally wide lenses, the optical quality would probably be bad.

 

So, no, there is really no good way to make this work. However, I have tested my Tokina 12-24 f/4 (not a EF-S lens, but an APS-C digital specific lens), and it will cover a FF sensor (or film) from 17-24mm. So it still works on a full frame camera as a wide lens with limited zoom range.