taner Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 O.K. most of us have been tempted to post smth similar - speculative... Well this is my shot at the 'genre', but I am not interested in what Canon might or might not do. I am interested in what you would want them to do... So here is my question for 20D owners - what would it take you to consider upgrading to the 20D replacement model? More megapixels or better viewfinder? Lower noise? Better AF? Faster shooting? Smth. else? And I am interested in 'the' factor - the deal maker/braker... I am looking into buying a second 'fresh' body (I have an XT/350D), and hence my question. Thank You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce johnson Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Bigger, brighter viewfinder would be the most critical upgrade; this would be the dealmaker for me. 1/500 flash sync, true spot metering, interchangeable viewfinder screens and a focusing system like the EOS3 had would be nice as well. I'll stick with the current sensor, frame rate and crop factor (now that more super Wide-angle options are available). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjb Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Bruce, arn`t you describing a 1D2, You can put a brighter screen in the 20d, I`ll wait a few weeks to see if rumors settle. Hope theres a between 20d & 1D2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shambrick007 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 1.3 or FF. That's all I care about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v.anisimov Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I'll keep using my 20d for a couple more years, so I'm not interested yet. However, I want ECF, a bigger viewfinder and less noise at 1600/3200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyDigs Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I'd buy the replacement even if everything were the same but it included ECF. ECF would make the multi-sensor AF system truly useful. I don't trust auto AF selection and find manual selection and lock-AF-recompose too slow. Of course a bigger viewfinder would be welcome. I suspect Canon thinks you should buy a 1 series DSLR if you really want a better viewfinder. I'd be happy if the 20D MKII had a viewfinder as good as the Pentax ist. More MP doesn't matter to me nor does less noise at faster ISO (I rarely need more than ISO 400). Please Canon add ECF to the 20D MKII (the naysayers can always turn it off). Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. - Robert Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark u Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Better viewfinder is essential, along with larger characters/icons on the LCD (probably implies a larger LCD) so I don't have to put glasses on to read them (I'm long sighted). A larger sensor with a greater dynamic range achieveable without extensive post processing (also implies lower noise at high ISO) would be a good way to get there. Without these, I'm unlikely to be tempted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitmstr Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I hope they include ISO and K settings on the finder too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ci_p Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 "more megapixels or better viewfinder in a 20D replacement" I don't care, since I'm never going to buy one. Why? Because no matter how good it is, the 1D series available at the same time is going to be better, and I'd rather have that, thanks very much. As for ECF, my desire is for a mousepad like you find on laptops to instantly direct the focus point with your right thumb to any of the available points, especially if there are 45 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerry_szarek Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Full Frame, I hate looking down my 10D especially compared to my M4-P or Hexar RF. As for MP anything 6 and above is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil vaughan - yorkshire u Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I'd also love ECF or another better way of chosing the AF point. ISO in the viewfinder is a must (Canon camera designers are clearly not digital photographers). A brighter viewfinder would be nicer to have than more mpix, however I'd put money on the fact that we'll get the latter. Remember people buy cameras based on evidence on spec sheets, megapixels, focus points, frame rate and buffer speed/size will make more money for Canon than ISO in the viewfinder or any other user friendly touches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward_h Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 > 1/500 flash sync When was the last time you NEEDED 1/500? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athinkle Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 If you have to hand-hold for an impromptu macro shot, the higher the x-sync the better. I use my EOS 3's max sync all the time and I wish it were even higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_carlson Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Full Frame would be the only thing to get me to move. I've not found the view finder to be dark or annoying as I didn't have an expectation on either the Drebel or the 20D. Without the expecations I've no issues with what I have. Full frame would be nice but cost would be evaluated. Full Frame at $8000 isn't worth it. FF at $1500 might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_larson1 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Personally. . .I need all the flash sync I can get. Anytime I take a portrait in the sun, I run into problems with hats or hair creating a shadow on the face. I often wind up attaching a flash unit so that I can get "high speed sync" with a shutter up at 1000th or 2000th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontus_gustavsson Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Spotmeter, easier mirror lockup, better viewfinder and a battery grip worth its name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camilla Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I will have to keep my 20D for a long time... buying a new body each year is out of the question and budget for me. What would make me really, really, REALLY tempted though, is a large, bright viewfinder! A lot of the time it is impossible for me to judge focus properly. I can't see well enough through that dark and dim little viewfinder. I wouldn't care about more pixels on the same sensor-size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian_tinsley Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Well,the most annoying thing for me about the 20D is the lack of ISO display anywhere without going specifically to find out. I change the ISO a lot, but am always forgetting to put it back. So...1) Display the ISO2) HAve a user-customisable set of default settings and allow a one-button push to take all the adjustments back there.3) Have an 'ISO adjustable' programme mode in shutter priority to try to keep the exposure correct even though the light is too low for the max aperture.4) Adhere to KISS principles - Keep It Simple, Stupid. MP are only an issue if you need to crop heavily. Full frame would be nice, especially at the same pixel density... All the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ky2 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 My preferences: 1) The camera craves for a brighter, larger viewfinder. 2) License Olympus' dust shaker technology. 3) Embed a wireless adapter inside the camera. 4) Larger LCD screen behind, with anti-reflective coating. This one is unusable outdoors during daylight. 5) Make a new grip that feels right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_austin Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 (1) ISO in viewfinder, (2) AF sensors that are closer in size to the markings in the viewfinder (bigger markings or smaller sensors) (3)bigger/brighter viewfinder, (4) less crop compared to full frame. I have all the pixels I'll ever need. I don't mind buying IS in the lens. I think it's a better solution than in the body, even if I have to buy it multiple times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_austin Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Oh, and (5) ISO 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boughey Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I've not been tenpted to upgrade my 10D to the 20D as more or less pixels hasn't been limiting for me. I hadn't actually thought about it until it was mentioned here, but the lack of ISO information either in the viewfinder or lcd is irratating although this is still easily surmountable if you remember to check. The only things that would get me to upgrade at the moment is [1] a fuller frame for minimal extra cost, i.e. less than 1500GBP, and [2] built in spot metering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark u Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 "'Allo Canon... ici le photo net jury... more megapixels...NUL POINTS" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_man Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Full frame, full frame, full frame... When will these guys get it - we don't want more MP, we just want FF! (side effect = better viewfinder too, in theory) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_r._fulton_jr. Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Jeez I'd just be happy with a firmware upgrade that would fix the stupid folder system. Just continuous number in one folder. Please, please. Please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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