nicholas_siebenmorgen Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Here I was about to buy a 5x7 camera. I like the fact that it's alittle bigger than 4x5 and the aspect ratio. I decided to see whatkind of film is available. It seems like the big photo supplierscarry almost no color film for 5x7. I found a site that had Kodak160nc but that was it. Has it always been this way, or is the 5x7format dying out? Also, do most porfessional photo labs that develop4x5 develop 5x7? How much does it usually cast per sheet to develop?Maybe I should just stick with 4x5? thanks Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_young9 Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 A recent issue of View Camera magazine had a list of available sheet films, including I believe, color positive and negative types. You might check the View Camera magazine web site, they sometimes put selected articles on the site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico_digoliardi Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 See: http://www.viewcamera.com/pdf/2006/5x713x18filmtable.pdfand: http://www.viewcamera.com/pdf/2006/future.pdf And while you are there, you might thank Steve Simmons for the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_earussi1 Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 If you have the money to pay for a special order, most film manufactures will cut any of their films to whatever size you want. Of course, this can get expensive and you would also have to have a freezer to store it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_briggs2 Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Juding from discussions on forums and maganzines articles, I'd say that interest in 5x7 is increasing. But it hasn't been a format for pros (other than art photographers) for a long time. There are many choices in B+W film, and very few in in color, at least in the US -- probably the number of amateurs wanting color hasn't been large enough to interest film companies. The color choices in 13x18 cm are larger, but, assuming that you are in the US, you will probably find those expensive to import. The situation is discussed in an article at http://www.largeformatphotography.info/5x7.html. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capocheny Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 I agree with Michael B. in that I also believe 5x7 seems to be increasing in popularity. Others have been asking the same question you are with regards to the types of film available and, of course, where to buy such films. So, IMHO, NO... it's NOT a dying format! If you Google 5x7 films... it should return with a number of discussions on this very topic. Also, go to the View Camera website... Steve has posted a free download on the types of 5x7 films currently available in the marketplace. To start you off... I buy my 5x7 Provia from Jeff at Badger Graphics. They import it from Japan as far as I know. I believe Jim at Midwest Photo can also supply you with 5x7 films. You can also find it at B+H Photo in New York. If you happen to live in Canada, it isn't available since Fuji Canada doesn't import it. That's why I buy it from Jeff or Jim from the stores above. Great folks to deal with! :) FP4, HP5, TMax is all available through most local dealers (even here in Canada.) If they don't have it in stock... they certainly can order it in for you. If you're not aware... people also buy 8x10 film and cut it down to fit 5x7. I've not done this before but wouldn't exclude it as an option. The decision whether to stay with 4x5 or move into 5x7 is a very personal one. You have to answer the question of "why" you want to move into 5x7 in the first place. Why not 8x10? Difficult as it may be... ask around and see if any of the pros in your neighborhood are shooting with 5x7 and go spend a bit of time with them! Personally, I really like the "feel" of the format as compared to 4x5 since it has an aspect ratio much more akin to 35mm. Historically, I've shot 35mm, 6x6, 6x7, and 4x5 but have now been shooting more and more 5x7. Of all the formats.. 35mm and 5x7 fit the way I "see" things the best. I'm very pleased I made the move... :) Some pro labs will process both 4x5, 5x7, and certainly 8x10... some don't! I'd suggest that you call the labs in your locale and ask. Per sheet cost for processing B&W runs from CDN$4.00 - $6.00 where I live. Or, you can simply process it yourself and save a few bucks! Hope that helps. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_beckmann Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 I think it is easier to obtain 13x18 cm film. My supplier in Germany has three different b/w films, one color neg, six different color transparency films, and one duplicating film in stock. The cameras for 13x18 are the same, all you need is the right film holder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carsten_benni Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Michael, who is your german supplier? Here in Italy it is impossible to get 5x7 colour negative films. I have to buy them in USA. Maybe your supplier would be able to ship me some boxes... Thank you C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_beckmann Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 My supplier has 13x18cm film, not 5x7". There is a size difference of one or two millimeters or so, and you need a different holder. You can use the same camera though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carsten_benni Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Hello Michael, I have several 13x18 holders. They are quite common here. I am looking forward to find buy some films from your supplier... Thank you C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_beckmann Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Carsten (that's a German name?): Call Nordfoto at 00 49 40 5298650 or have a look at their web site: http://www.nordfoto.de enter 13x18 at the search prompt. I have ordered from them many times, they are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_beckmann Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 If you are a business and have a EU VAT number, they may sell to you at the "netto" prices by the way. Ask them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim hyde Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 In addition to the other suggestions above, you can get Provia and any of the three Velvia flavors (50, 100, 100F) in 5x7 from Dirk at Megapearls in Japan. (http://www.unicircuits.com/shop/) It's not cheap, but it's great service and reasonably fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carsten_benni Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Thank you Michael! I already visit their website. They have very reasonably price. Thank you again, C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allen_whittier Posted April 1, 2006 Share Posted April 1, 2006 Get 8x10 and cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_menesdorfer Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 To everyone, the 5x7 or 13x18 in Europe almost dissapered! there is hardly any enlarger and film to this size! 4x5 and 8x10 much easyer but no 8x10 enlarger at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_beckmann Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 You can buy new enlargers for 5x7" and 8x10" from Kienzle. http://www.kienzle-phototechnik.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big toys are better Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 For those considering cutting 8x10 in half, also ponder finding old 5x8" glass plate holders and modifying to use film, or order some new units from Canham or Wisner with the usual caveats about holding back part of the payment until delivery, especially with Ron. You will also need a back that can use the 5x8 holders, and many cameras have too small an opening for this to work perfectly, but again, it is a doable option even if you lose a part of the extra inch. another option remains adapting an 8x10 back either to a 5x7 camera, or shooting half-frames on the 8x10 camera. I have darkslides with a 50% cut-out made up for my 4x5, 5x7 and 8x10 holders just for this purpose. The half-frame 5x7 is quite useful for super wide panoramic images, and a 5x8 would be even wider with this (although I haven't done it yet). Hope this continues to pique the interest of LFers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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