asimrazakhan Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Everyone's talking about liquids not being allowed on the planes. But would we still be able to take camera film? Checking in film would destroy it. It would suck to have to find Fuji Velvia at foreign destinations. Also, would cameras be allowed? I have a fully electric camera and a fully manual camera that doesn't even need batteries. Would I have to check them both in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe tarrant Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 If you're flying out of the UK at the moment, you're allowed travel documents, a wallet and medicines. That's it. No cameras, film, laptops, Palms, iPods, books, newspapers, dvd players, sweets, food, water, peanuts, chocolate, anything from the duty-free. You aren't allowed to have anything in your pockets. Women must put handbags within checked baggage. Depending where you're coming from, you may have other rules. Check the BBC News website if you want further details of flying in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_jarrett Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Your camera will not classify as an essential item (as listed above, it's ticket, passport, wallet and keys only). Everything else goes in the hold. Best take a digital camera and leave the film at home. These are tight times, and no matter how hard you plead, you film and camera will be scanned with the x-ray and put in the hold... sorry, but that's terrorism for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_cochran Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 The rules now vary depending on your origin and destination, and they are sure to vary from time to time. <p> There was just a big change yesterday, and it will take time for things to stabilize. It's a little premature to speculate that the days of carry-on are gone forever, though they seem to be gone from international flights departing from the UK right now. But it's also premature to speculate when they'll start banning or allowing what sorts of items on which kinds of flights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogercottee Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 I doubt it. The detenator was going to be concealed as a camera flash. Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad1 Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 in Canada, U.S.a and Costa Rica I had no problem... I also brought a lighter and pensil w/out any problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curt wiler Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Back to the original question. What country are we talking about? The rules are different everywhere, and non-specific questions and (sometimes ill-informed) answers are just adding to the confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene_stern Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 It's best to check with the airline at the moment. Hopefully the new restrictions allowing one to bring nothing but one's own body on board will have proved counter-productive. For myself, if similar riules as those in Britain are put in effect in the U.S., I see no point in booking a flight. My camera is part of me. Checking it in is out of the question as I can never be sure that the content of my bags will not be diminished by the time I arrive to my destination. My luggage have been opened and damaged in the past, things have been stolen as well. So I'm taking no chances. Somehow, it seems to me that these new restrictions are temporary. How many people would take a risk of checking in their laptops and other equipment worth $$$$ and chancing never seeing them again? The new restrictions are not a solution but rather a complication. Terrorism should be fought not by damaging and prohibiting all around but by focusing on a very particular group. Eventually, I believe it will come to this when such politically correct measures as the newest become economically and otherwise unsustainable. In the meantime, let's see what's going to happen next. There is nothing really one can do at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 According the news reports, only flights from the UK to the United States are restricted against all carry-on luggage. Perhaps you could arrange to depart from from Paris - a short flight or ferry ride from London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hclim Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 "Everything else goes in the hold. Best take a digital camera" Ahem, you mean put the camera with the check-in luggage? Do you know how baggage handlers handle luggage? I have got and I have seen suitcases damaged from being thrown around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_shearman1 Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 In the U.S. so far liquids, gels and pastes (like toothpaste) are now banned from carry on luggage but carry on luggage is still allowed. Carry on luggage to my knowledge has been banned only in Great Britain. There are very rugged "air cases" available for transporting photo and video equipment by air without damage, but there is still the issue of security since they must be left unlocked for inspection. Not a good situation at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philippartridge Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 <p>Best not be too alarmist, no matter what stance the media take on this latest kerfuffle. It will quickly pass and be forgotten. I haven't looked in to the rate of loss of checked luggage, but I feel it is very low indeed and I certainly don't worry about my Gitzo sitting well protected in my backpack in its locked tote bag.</p> <p>A short story set in another part of the world, one where 'terrorist strikes' are common and where, incidentally, most humans reside. I last month flew out of Mumbai the day after seven bombs ripped train carriages apart in seven train stations in the city (over 200 dead), and expected more security at the airport.</p> <p>Not on your life, it was business as usual, the security people remained easy-going and nice to do business with and to be around - no extra checks or treating folks as guilty until proven innocent. Makes sense - only a very dumb terrorist would travel with weaponry the day after a strike...I wish the oh so touchy security folks in the west were so understanding of the plight of travellers.</p> <p>BTW, I have been granted hand inspections of 35mm/120 film for over 30 successive flights now. For those that think the x-ray devices are safe (and this misinformation is cited here often enough), take a moment to read <a href="http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/support/techPubs/cis98/cis98.jhtml">this document</a>, a copy of which I carry to show any feisty carry-on baggage security officer..this course of action is usually unnecessary, but when it is, it has never failed.</p> <p>The relevant section: "Airport x-ray inspection equipment is the most common source encountered by most photographers. Except for the new types of inspection units described earlier, most inspection units in use today are relatively safe for films with an ISO speed or Exposure Index (EI) of 400 or lower. However, multiple exposures without reorientation of the film, <i>cumulative doses of more than five exposures, and malfunctioning inspection units can cause fog.</i>" Italics mine, and acknowledgments to Kodak, who I feel know more about the subject than internet 'received wisdom'.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austinphoto Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 I'm flying tomorrow morning. Just got off the phone with the airline and TSA. They both told me that a camera will be allowed on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrejs_ilicuks Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Seems that this times most pictures taken in London by foreign tourists will originate from disposables, bought on place. Or specialty shops will start lending cameras for those, who aren't brave enough to put their camera stuff in luggage - English are known as football players, though airport luggage handlers may be football fanatics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike dixon Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 <i>For those that think the x-ray devices are safe (and this misinformation is cited here often enough), take a moment to read this document, a copy of which I carry to show any feisty carry-on baggage security officer..this course of action is usually unnecessary, but when it is, it has never failed.</i><P> Note that the document in his link is refering to scanners used for <b>checked baggage</b>, not scanners used for carry-on baggage. I've never seen anyone on photo.net claim that checked baggage is a safe place for your film. Here's another link to (slightly-more-recent) information from Kodak:<P> <a href="http://www.kodak.com/global/en/service/publications/tib5201.jhtml">http://www.kodak.com/global/en/service/publications/tib5201.jhtml</a><P> Currently, if you're flying out of the UK, it appears the best course of action is to either have your film developed before leaving (then place it in your checked bags) or to ship your undeveloped film to your destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_thorlin Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Abe - presumably they mean you can take it on board out of the US but did you ask if you can take it on board back out of the UK ? I think not and you will ( at present ) have to check it in the hold. I strongly suggest you do a double check on this. Mike - absolutely right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terence_spross1 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 It depends on the level of alert at the airport at the time. And the level can change. So my advice is to have additional room in your checked baggage to check what would ordinarily be your carry-on. Slower speed film doesn't seem to be fogged by a few passes through the x-ray machine. Also, you can have a trusted friend hang around the airport that can take the items that security won't let you through with and courier them to an air cargo carrier like DHL. your friend can expect to wait until after you take off before they will relesase the items as they may continue to examine them. Or just ship the items to yourself - of course this all costs extra money. Put your film in a transparent baggie AND LABLE with your NAME. I know of a very sad case of a vactioning couple losing all their photos because their memory chips for their digital camera(s) were lost in the shuffle of security. They had not put their name on the bag. They had only a total of 6 photos from their trip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terence_spross1 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I just saw the Kodak link Mike had about xray fog and guess a few xrays cam't be trusted as OK. I believe cargo carriers don't use xrays generally as they aren't viewed as a target. But better ask before you ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_briggs2 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I traveled inside the the US on August 11th under the new rules and had no trouble carrying a medium format camera and film in my carryon luggage. It received a hand inspection and swabbing for explosives, but that processing was quick and very polite. I left mid-day, and the security line was short. The trip itself was unpleasant, with both of my flights being substantially late, with the last being cancelled after a 5 hour delay at 1 AM so that I had to spend the night in the airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprouty Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 FWIW, and I realize this is probably silly to even post, but my wife routinely checks her exposed but undeveloped film, no matter how much I protest, and after 5 trips, 2 of which were over-seas, she has yet to fog a roll. Funny thing is, now she does it just to prove me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James G. Dainis Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 SP,<BR>You're not going to win. When she does get a badly fogged film, she will just blame it on the lab. James G. Dainis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terence_spross1 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 SP: Its xray roulette, you never know which xray machine (they vary in x-ray intensity) they are going to use and how many passes thru the machine your bag is going to endure. Or maybe your bag will be the one that is stuck in the x-ray beam for a considerable time due to a jam on the conveyor belt. Or maybe your bag will be hand inspected instead of x-rays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photorepetto Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 here my petition for have a special Press Pass for phofessional photographer and videoperator, for carry-on board ours photo equipment... [link]http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=31837384469[\link]<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photorepetto Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 here my petition for have a special Press Pass for phofessional photographer and videoperator, for carry-on board ours photo equipment... http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=31837384469<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photorepetto Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 sorry for duoble post...!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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