Raw Programs and the Nikon D70s

There is something different between the D70 and D70s NEF files, even

if it is something very simple like one line of code. RAW programs

like Bibble and RawShooter will support it in their next releases. In

the meantime, it looks like the trial edition of Nikcon Capture.

What about D70 files with the new firmware update?

I just processed some D70, firmware 2.0, pictures with Adobe Camera Raw 2.something and Photoshop CS and it worked flawlessly. I don't know about the D50 or D70s, but everything works great with the D70.

Okay, I haven't been able to pay attention. Does the D70s have the same wb encrypt bs at the D2x?

No, it does not.

 

D70s files should be identical to D70 files in every respect. D50 files, however, will be

different. But the format should be the same as the D100's Uncompressed NEF.

Apparently there is a line of code that identifies the D70s as a D70s and this may be the problem. RawShooter and Bibble Pro will address the D70s in their next releases according to the forums on each site.

Neither RawShooter nor Phase One nor Adobe Camera Raw 2.4 can read the D 70s NEF files at the moment. Maybe there will be a release for RawShooter and Phase One, but I doubt that there will be a release for Adobe, since there is a new Camera Raw 3.0 only for the new Photoshop CS2! Meanwhile tricky Nikon wants to sell its own Capture 4.2 software that the owners of "old" D 70 need not buy! So you may add about 200$ to the price of the camera. I think that Nikon is on the wrong way!

L鯮 Doemer

<p>Léon

<p>If you know how to get Capture free with the D70, I'm all ears.

<p>--ben

If someone knows how to get Photoshop CS2 free, I am listening.

And if anyone does happen to know how to get Capture, Photoshop or any other software unlicensed and without paying for it or otherwise getting it legally, please don't share that information here. This isn't a warez p2p site.

Lex, I wasn't trying to get someone to post where to get an illegal copy of photoshop. I was just pointing out that Photoshop does cost money, why should Capture be free? It comes with a bunch of paper manuals and users who have several DSLRs only need one set of those, so it would not be a great idea to include a copy of them with the camera.

Ilkka, I didn't mean to imply criticism of any individuals here. However when the issue of paying for expensive software like PS has come up before on photo.net there have been occasional comments encouraging piracy. Naturally, photo.net doesn't want to be associated with such notions.

 

FWIW, I believe that a full, unrestricted version of Capture should be included with every new Nikon dSLR. If and when Nikon does come to its senses and do this, they should make it retroactive to include all dSLRs still under warranty. My opinion, not that of photo.net, etc., standard disclaimer.

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Lex, I wasn't trying to get someone to post where to get an illegal copy of photoshop. I was just pointing out that Photoshop does cost money, why should Capture be free?

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For starters, because Capture is not Photoshop.

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1. - Capture is useful <B>ONLY</B> to folks who have already graced Nikon with $1,000+ of their hard-earned money.

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2. - It would cost Nikon <B>ABSOLUTELY NOTHING</B> to include the fully live version as opposed to the so-called "trial" version, on the CD that is included with every Nikon DSLR.

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3. - Because of #1, there is <B>ZERO</B> risk of this ever becoming a "piracy" issue.

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4. - Without Capture, the user does not get the full use and benefit of the hardware he's already paid for.

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Bottom Line: This whole "full version optional" nonsense is thinly disguised price-gouging on Nikon's part, pure and simple. This blatant insult <b>almost</b> kept me from buying my D70 (it *did* delay it until I knew for sure I had a viable work-around available).

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It comes with a bunch of paper manuals and users who have several DSLRs only need one set of those, so it would not be a great idea to include a copy of them with the camera.

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*What* "paper manuals"?  Do mean something beyond an equivalent to the .PDF file that is also already on the CD that comes with the camera?  That looks pretty complete, to me; so I have a hard time envisioning what other useful information could be contained in a dead-tree version.  And besides, the dead-tree version of the manual itself could still be "optional", without causing any discernable grief for the 99% of the users who would not need or want it.  And yes, there is already an excellent and well-proven model for this approach: <A HREF="http://www.pmail.com/manuals.htm">http://www.pmail.com/manuals.htm</A>

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The problem is that the owners of Nikon's D70 may use Adobe's Camera Raw for free, whereas the buyers of the new D70s can't use it, because it doesn't work. So they have to add the price of Nikon's

Capture 4.2 to the price of the camera (nobody of course is obliged to use a software for the treatment of his NEF files, but the camera is expensive enough to ask for it.) By the way: there is no problem at all with Canon cameras and their CRW files working splendidly with Adobe Camera Raw! Why not with Nikon?

It doesn't work because <b>Adobe</b> hasn't added support for the D70s to Adobe

Camera Raw <b>yet</b>.<br>

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As for Canon's raw files, does anyone remember how many months it took for Adobe to add

support for the Canon 350D to ACR? It only made it in for Photoshop CS2.