paolo_ferraina Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Hello just a question my friend :-) For you, what is the future of digital minilab? Alwais chemical processing or inkjet? What do you think about? Bye and good work :-) Paolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrea.gerosa Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Frankly I don't know, but I hope chemical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Many mini-labs do both chemical and inkjet prints - inkjet for prints wider than 8 inches. For a variety of reasons, inkjet prints tend to be custom, rather than mass, produced. They are also much more fragile than prints on Crystal C - sensitive to scratches, fingerprints and water. The print making end will probably outlast the film processing end by decades, assuming that environmental concerns don't do to photography what they did to our heavy industry (and jobs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_eaton Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Eventually we can expect mini-labs to dump wet processing all together and move to either ink-jet printing, or some type of technology yet to be determined. The reasons are simple and obvious. With film sales diminishing, labs are going to start turning up their noses at C-41 processing, and RA-4 paper processing will logically follow. The additional labor, storage and safety concerns with conventional chemical processing are simply too great for modern labs to compete with. RA4 digital printing has entrenched itself as a very high quality and popular process, but it can't hang on forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_graham3 Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Frankly I don't give a hoot what kind of medium the labs use for printing, as long as there's someplace left running an E-6 and C-41 line with fresh chemicals. I'm a digital shooter, 1Ds-Mark2 and 5D, know CS2 inside and out, the whole nine yards, but I'd still hate to see the door closed on film as a photographic medium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_eaton Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 I can see E-6 at full service professional labs outlasting C-41 at amatuer ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravi_swamy Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Always chemical processing? Of course not but I doubt that inkjets will replace it. I lean toward Scott's statement of some future technology that may not have even been invented yet. There is a lot of R&D going into "electronic paper" but mostly as low quality newspaper replacement type stuff. Eventually that kind of stuff will get high quality and cheap enough that it will be everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_Lookingbill Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Those little 4x6 print docks that come with some digicams I saw on HSN showed one model where they dunked the print in all types of solutions and rubbed it with their fingers without any problems. I don't know what printing technology they used-inkjet, dyesub or lazer exposed silver halide, but that's got to be the best archival quality I've come across. Maybe something of that type on a larger scale might be in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basscheffers Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Will it last? Of course not! But I don't see it being replaced by inkjet any time soon as that can't compete on price or speed right now. And I doubt it will catch up any time soon. (A Frontier prints about 1500 6x4s an hour, I believe) I can see inkjet creeping up quite soon on low-volume local drugstores, but at the high capacity (online) operations, it just doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basscheffers Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Tim: those docks are (AFAIK) alway dye-sub, which is supposed to be pretty archival, but expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimstrutz Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 My office just leased a Minolta laser printer/copier for the network. does full color 8.5"x11" prints for $0.10, and B&W for $0.01, even on card stock. Image quality is good for a laser, but... Now if someone could get a similar system to make really good looking prints for the same price/convenience it would almost kill the chemical print industry. I don't doubt someone will eventually get this right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert himmelright Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 I forsee.......the death of the c-41 film proscessor and something resebling a fuji frontier or noritsu 3011 or even agfa d-lab except minus the film scanner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 <i>something resebling a fuji frontier or noritsu 3011 or even agfa d-lab except minus the film scanner</i><p> That's already here, it's called a Fuji Pictograph. The processor and a computer and you're done. I've been using one for some of my prints for the last year, it's nothing new. Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert himmelright Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 the pictography is in no way shape or form similar to the frontier other than files in photos out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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