john sypal Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 <a class="imagelink" href="http://kenshukan.net/john/archives/ayakitasenju9106.jpg" title="ayakitasenju9106.jpg"><img id="image620" src="http://kenshukan.net/john/archives/ayakitasenju9106.jpg" alt="ayakitasenju9106.jpg" /></a> <p>Taken the other night with a Voigtlander 40mm lens.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy_tok Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Were you about to mug her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 She was expecting a 40mm Summicron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy_tok Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 LOL! (Am I only worthy of being shot with a Voightl䮤er?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCULUS New York Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 <Were you about to mug her?> Again? Not the most flattering lens for (friendly) portraiture. Ray Hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Come on now, John! There must be some sort of story behind this picture beyond the 40mm lens. Who is she, where was the photo taken? Let's read all about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john sypal Posted September 2, 2006 Author Share Posted September 2, 2006 I was forgot to put W/NW in the subject heading- I wanted to see some other 40mm portraits. This is a friend and we had dinner the other night. I could have scanned and posted the ones where she is smiling but I preferred this shot to those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy_da_kid Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Yeah, right, why don't you tell us a beautiful story because the picture is crap anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john sypal Posted September 2, 2006 Author Share Posted September 2, 2006 Out of curiosity and for the sake of a possibly interesting discussion, why must a lens be "flattering" to make a good portrait? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brambor Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 hmm. 40mm. had to dig back a while <p> <img src=http://static.flickr.com/52/143476855_94d25ae0ed_o.jpg> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis l. Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Nice focal length for environmental portraits in my opinion.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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john sypal Posted September 2, 2006 Author Share Posted September 2, 2006 Rene that is a good photograph. I like how the boy sits a little lower in the frame than expected. He looks as if he is used to having his picture taken... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didjiman Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 John, what makes you think it's a good picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masu_ota1 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Hello Rene, can you tell me which 40mm lens (and aperture) you used when taking that photo? Thanks. Masu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brambor Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Masu. I believe it was Hexanon Pancake 40mm at 1.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brambor Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Thanks John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john sypal Posted September 3, 2006 Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 Re: Rene's picture I like the utter lack of pretention or artifice of it. It is simply a photograph of a boy (centered in the frame) in a restaurant. Due to the visually stripped down feel of it, there is plenty of mental space to think about it's possible meanings. Who is he? What is the relationship between him and the photographer? Why is he not giving the usual Cute Kid look? No pronounced grin, just a steady look at the person taking the picture. He is inside yet has on his coat and hat over his ears. I wonder if it is late and he wants to get home yet he does not seem to dislike having this picture taken and looks more like he has been in this situation before. For me photographs are much more interesting when they ask questions instead of trying to tell you meanings. (Rene, I am not expecting you to answer the ones I asked here although of course you can if you want.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_richardson Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Not particularly interesting, but a 40mm shot....on 6x6 <P><img src="http:// www.stuartrichardson.com/denise-and-adrienne.jpg"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john sypal Posted September 3, 2006 Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 Well as long as we are honest about what cameras we used now, I will say that no one has pointed out I said "a Voigtlander 40mm lens"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephane camus Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Not really 40mm... 38mm, Fuji lens on Fuji Klass (=AFM35), open at f2, no flash (of course).<br> Since it is not a 40mm, I give you the nice story. This was the first trip to France (Dec 2003) of my girl friend. She liked the hat but did not buy it. Next day she went back home, in Japan. I ran down the store, bought the hat and sent it to her. We married in in December 2004. :)<br> I wish my M6 had a 40mm mounted on with 40mm frames, I love this focal length.<br> Happy shooting, and sorry for the 2mm missing...<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattalofs Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Er, how about a portrait with a 35? Long lens portraits are overrated. <br> <center> <img src="http://www.1point4photography.com/images/02880009.jpg"><br>hexar rf, biogon 35, delta 400 | <a href="http://www.1point4photography.com">Matt Alofs www.1pt4.com</a> </center> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael s. Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Stephane - Glad you told that story. That's a big part of what personal photos are about. You're more than forgiven for the "missing" 2mm -- or is it actually the extra 2mm :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCULUS New York Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 John, You are a good sport about the ribbing, but maybe there are some who do not understand the principles of shorter lenses. Your friend's face seems to be somewhat detached, in proportion, to her neck. That's what happens when you are in close with a wide, and precisely why wides are used in close--to exagerate the foreground object, while keeping the background in focus. Longer lenses, to the contrary, flatten DoF, and also provide, at wider apertures, a chance to blur out the distractions of the background. Some of the other photos offered are better because they were not so close to the subject, therefore foreground objects (noses, foreheads, etc.) weren't exagerated. Sure, you can use your 40 to take people pics, but I can't recommend it for "portraiture" unless capturing your subject "in situ" is important. And if that's the case, remember to keep your distance so that you capture enough of the surroundings to help tell the story. The White House photographer's favorite lens is a 28--but you get to see figures head to toe and all the White House trappings surrounding them. Good luck, Ray Hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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