ron_west1 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Hi All, I'm new to B&W and development and want to try using and developing Fomapan200 and developing it in XTOL deluted 1+1 but cannot find any times listed for XTOL deluted only undeluted with Fomapan200 in 135 film? Is there a reason for this? Is anyone using XTOL 1+1 and if so what development time would you recommend at 20C? Thanks, Ron PS. Sorry if this question has been asked before but I've been searching for the answer for hours and can find nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the world in black white Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Seven to eight minutes does it for me - using and E.I. of 200. The film curls like a watch spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron_west1 Posted September 2, 2006 Author Share Posted September 2, 2006 Thanks Don....Any Idea why 1+1 delution is excluded from developing lists?....Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank.schifano Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Probably because anyone who's tried it with any success hasn't asked that the database be updated, or the admin of Digital Truth didn't update the data if any were submitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchell_kirschner Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 "The film curls like a watch spring." Are you talking about 120 or 35mm format? I've shot/souped one roll of 35mm (Arista.EDU Ultra version - should be identical) and didn't experience any unusual curl. Lovely film, by the way. 120 is probably a different story, based on my experience with Foma 400 in 120. The stuff curls (as in wants to wind back up) like crazy. Do they use a curling iron as part of the manufacturing process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonio_federici Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Hi Ron, the Fomadon Excel film developer produced by FOMA is identical to Kodak XTOL. You can find development times suggested by FOMA for Fomapan200 in Fomadon Excel at this address: http://www.freestylephoto.biz/pdf/Fomapan_200.pdf#search=%22fomapan%2B200%2Bcreative%22 They do not give indications for the 1+1 dilution, but their suggestions are a good starting point. Good luck, Antonio Federici Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the world in black white Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Are you talking about 120 or 35mm format? I've shot/souped one roll of 35mm (Arista.EDU Ultra version - should be identical) and didn't experience any unusual curl. Lovely film, by the way. Mitchell: I am talking about 135 Fomapan 200 as sold by J&C. I don't know about being identical. Seems to me that there are too many authorities contending that "things are identical" without expressing their credentials or source of informaton. That sort of thing is rampant on this forum. Further, I have developed over forty rolls of this this film and found the curl to be consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonio_federici Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 Hi Donald, a source of information about interesting similarities can be found here: http://www.digitaltruth.com/chart/unlisted.html Other sources are available if you are interested. However, FOMA itself gives contrast-time curves, and other data about FOMA films under the double heading: "Fomadon Excel/Kodak XTol". Regards, Antonio Federici Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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