drjedsmith Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 I guess I must be way out of the loop (like usual) :-)...<BR>But when did Agfa films make a come back? I see they're in stock at B&H, and I just ordered several rolls of APX 100 tonight, and got the confirmation email - so I assume they are ready to ship. Always did love that film.<BR><BR>Have the B&W emulsions been bought by some company that has re-started the lines up?<BR>Thanks for any info or links to previous info I might have missed. I remember reading all the stuff about the "Agfa going out" months ago.<BR>Jed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf_rainer_schmalfuss Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Hello Jed! With the ROLLEI RETRO 100 and ROLLEI RETRO 400, you have two former AGFA APX films, coming as roll film 120 and 35mm, and will be available for a very long time to go! Regards Rainer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotohuis RoVo Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Rollei/Maco bought the whole raw APX100/400 material in Leverkusen and have made a configuration in 35mm and 120 roll film under Retro 100/400. As I understand it was a quit big stock. Further they have their own production locations for their own films in Germany (Filmotec, Wolfen) and Belgium (Gevaert). The Agfa chemical division is back in production, bought by A&O (Neuss, Germany) http://www.ao-imaging-solutions.com/shop/index.php?cat=c31_B-W-chemicals.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_thorlin Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Interesting ( and good ) news - so film is dead and Agfa and Ilford are merely zombies ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafael_franco Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 As far as I can tell B&H was never out of agfa. I guess they have a huge stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjlukasik Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 I agree, I have been ordering APX 400 for a year without a problem, despite Agfa's problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zml Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 As of today, Agfa is history. Maybe the brand name will make a come back but I wouldn't hold my breath. B&H has some old-new stock of APX 100 and APX 400 in 35 mm and APX 400 in 120 but once it's gone it's gone. Rollei films ARE NOT AGFA formulations -- where did this myth come from..? It is easy to check for instance by recommended development times. Rollei Retro 400 in D-76 @20C - 14 minutes. APX 400 (new, reformulated) in D-76 @20C - 12 minutes ("old formula" APX 400 - 10 minutes.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert himmelright Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Agfa is gone, but from the expiration dates im seeing their film is here till 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david j.lee Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Francois Courtois, from the leica forum, just informed me that the agfa apx films are now manufactured in belgium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_waller Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Hallelujah brothers and sisters! Although not a major user of Agfa film I would miss APX 100's tonality. This is good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drjedsmith Posted September 1, 2006 Author Share Posted September 1, 2006 That's great news for me; I've been using Kodak T-Max 100 for the last while, but I have never seen anything I liked better than the tonality and "crispness" of Agfa APX-100.<BR> As per some of your suggestions, though, I will be trying some Fuji Across 100 soon as well. It's half the price of T-Max!<BR> Jed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pics Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Agfa is still dead AFAIK. Wasn't the coating equipment scattered to the four winds? If so I have a hard time believing that it is going to be manufactured anywhere else, although I hope I'm wrong. The rebranded stuff that is left (Rollei Retro, Arista II)is the remaining stock coated prior to Agfa going kaput. Also, just because the expiration date on the last batch is 2010 doesn't mean the supply will last that long. We all know that once something is announced to be in a limited or finite number people go on panic or "stocking sprees" which can dry up the remaining supply faster than normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_divenuti Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 OK, let me try to set this straight... Agfa film, as I was told two years back by the Agfa USA folks in Ridgefield Park, NJ, is always dated to expire 65 months from its time of manufacture in Leverkusen. That's quite a bit longer than the 3-4 years most other major manfactures used to assign an expiration date to their film. So don't get excited if you see Agfa film dated 2010 - it was simply manufactured in early 2005 prior to the collapse of AgfaPhoto. Agfa USA never (that's right - never) actually imported any AgfaPhoto-manufactured (and don't forget AgfaPhoto wasn't formed until 2004) film into the USA. Agfa USA was not a subsidiary of AgfaPhoto - they were an autonomous entity and they pretty much got fed up with AgfaPhoto very early in the game for reasons that haven't been explained to my satisfaction. The upshot is Agfa USA refused to import AgfaPhoto-manufactured film due to some dispute or other and substantial film stocks remain available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pics Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 "The upshot is Agfa USA refused to import AgfaPhoto-manufactured film due to some dispute or other and substantial film stocks remain available" Very interesting. Of course there is a big downside to this which is the possiblity that Agfa USA's dispute and subsequent refusal to import Agfa products played a big part in the bankruptcy and demise of AgfaPhoto. I wonder if the refusal by Agfa USA was the final nail in the coffin of AgfaPhoto. That's a big market to lose and it does seem interesting that bankruptcy was filed within a year or so of this event (assuming it did happen.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drjedsmith Posted September 2, 2006 Author Share Posted September 2, 2006 That is interesting. Does make you wonder. So in the end, this Agfa film, where ever it's coming from is going to dry up - it's not being currently manufactured?<BR> Suppose I'll have to be back to Kodak and Fuji, then...eventually. Jed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Get it and use it why you can and Kodak and Fuji are not the only makers... Adox is improving... now that it has a big brother and Lucky has also improved. If you can get it ERA is a beautiful film.... Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_tuttle Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 I have no idea if Agfa films are going to be manufactured again. I work in the Graphic Arts and buy large amounts of AGFA graphic products and what I was told is that AGFA Photo was spun off into it's seperate intity because it's numbers made the stocks look bad. They knew at the time, (it was infact given to the employees) it was not long for this world. That is what I was told from an employee based in the Ridgefield Park plant. I would think that in the future some company will release films under the AGFA name. Would be a big PR pickup for some smaller lesser known company. The formulas and public knowledge would be a big stock boost for some former eastern block nation company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf_rainer_schmalfuss Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Hi Robert! Why you are not submit your questions to photo@mahn.net? Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christopher_griffith Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 wow. there is just a lot of conflicting info re: APX films and whether or not it is now being actually produced as the Rollei Retro 100/400. i have been told directly from rollei that they are indeed the same...... but does this mean it is old stock, or that it is actually being produced by a new producer? can anyone actually add some clarity her? and is it even readily available in the States..... as even B&H do not list it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotohuis RoVo Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Freestyle have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_paluh1 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 I emailed Lupus and this is the reply I got: "Dear Mr. Paluh, we are producing new B/W film, the APX film. Kind Regards Lupus Imaging & Media -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- Von: joe paluh [mailto:jpaluh@yahoo.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. Januar 2007 00:52 An: info@lupus-im.com Betreff: Lupus Imaging und Media: agfa apx This is an enquiry e-mail via http://www.lupus-imaging-media.com from: joe paluh <jpaluh@yahoo.com> Are you now producing new stock of Agfa B&W film? Thank you. jp" I hope that answers your question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich815 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Joe, did you thank him for his detailed and informative reply? Sounds great but I'd sure feel a heck of a lot better with a more professional, informative and complete reply to exactly what he means by that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_paluh1 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Here is the link for all of you interested in Agfa film. http://www.lupus-imaging-media.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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