panyitu Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Carl, I just did it sure is a difficult task. I hadn't been there science my first days on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurie_m Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Some of the Mate Raters are actually very good photographers. I'm confident they'll have images near the top of this sort from time to time. Carl is absolutely right! Admin. did their part. Now we need to support that move and post our fair share of rates through the rate recent que. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark lucas Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Yes, the Rate Recent Queue. Just tried to do my bit, got hit by the dreaded "rating insert failed". No more for me today, I guess! You know, I don't think I've ever seen one official response to that bug - what causes it? Is it when an image you've already rated appears? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan_dzo Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Mark, yes it seems to happen when you've already rated via another means, or if they've taken the picture off and you get a white square with a red cross in the centre. I always find though that if you go out of the rating queue and re-enter, then it's fine and gives you a fresh lot of pictures. So only a nuisance. Keep rating! Isn't the TRP refreshing now. A joy to look at :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 i've been rating and commenting through rate recent for awhile now and notice the following. yes, sometimes I get booted and and can go back in. eventually, the photos presented to me have fewer and fewer ratings and eventually none, meaning i am getting photos just posted. and eventually, there are no more for me to review until more are posted. rough guess, can go through about 50 photos before this happens. folks, PLEASE PLEASE remember when you can to comment. lets not let the ratings controversy obliterate sharing thoughts about the photo, which to me is the real benefit of posting photos here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
root Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Ben, may I suggest NOT commenting when you rate off the RFC queue. You're doing it for the site, and commenting will only slow you down. We need volume output from people who understand the rating guidelines. If anyone wants me to justify a rate and is willing to email me, I'm willing to do it if it seems sincere, but it will cost you a critique on one of my images first. Too many people upload pictures and think that "the site" (whatever that means) somehow owes them thoughtful feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan_dzo Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Ben, well said, comments are more important than ratings. BUT I find less than 1 in 10 actually reply to comments made, which is a little sould destroying. Sometimes I've even posted a picture to illustrate a point, yet still no reply. Hardly a conversation. So its a two way thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Carl, in real time, it doesn't slow down my rating very much and, in fact, it helps me determine my rating a lot of times. but also, while helping the site is valuable, your comment demonstrates my point -- to get lost in the ratings controversy is to ignore the real purpose of many photographers' posting photos -- which is to get meaningful feedback. if we ignore that, we may allow people to grow discouraged and stop posting, leaving the place to the competitors more and more. so there are trade offs, whatever one does. ivan, your percentage may be about right, but i've enjoyed my experience so far. i review a mix of photos from people i've run across before and new people, using, alternatively, the interesting people feature in my workplace, rate recent, and the photo categories. i mark people as interesting regularly. when i'm interested in a photo and/or the photographer's work or approach, i really try to take the time to leave a thorough comment (it helps to be specific, constructive and not get personal, though i can't say i maintain that approach all the time). when someone leaves a comment on my photos, i try to respond, both on my page and theirs. (lots of people check the follow up feature and come back.) i'm not shy about asking questions about shooting or photoshop technique or sharing my own, which also furthers dialogue and enables me to learn things. over time, i've been in touch with numerous people on some consistent basis, and we've gotten to know each other a bit and help each other out with tips and critiques more and more. it kind of builds over time. and when you do find someone who really tells you what they see, that person can be invaluable. i can think of a half a dozen people immediately who have helped me improve my work in the last year by their comments and tips, for what its worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 btw, i've just checked the all-time rate recent sum leaders, and one particular category of photos clearly dominates -- every one of the top 100 photos all-time are from the same category of photo. is that where this is headed? if so, is that an improvement? is there some way to avoid it from happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mg Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Really an interesting change... I just saw the "new" TRP default (after face-lifting), and it was indeed completely different from what it used to be. I have to say that it wasn't really better than usual, but at least it showed new names and new styles. I guess I'm going to have to wait a bit before complaining again...:-) <p> And Carl Root is right when he writes this: "Well folks, It's time to support the new improved version by going to the polls and voting. It's your civic duty. Of course you'll have plenty of time for this new activity, now that there won't be as many interesting feedback threads to read." <p> Let's see how all this works. Thanks, Brian. <p> PS: Now can you guess where I'm off too...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_philbrick Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Is there an explanation as to how the new rating changes and rate recent sum work? I've searched and only come up with this thread which doesn't make it clear to me how the new system works. I can't make any sense of how the images are ordered in rate recent sum. I like the looks of the new system, though. It looks like it has great promise, I just don't fully understand how it works. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bekster Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 The new default view works for me, I am no longer made nauseous when I select the menu item... thanks and I dont care how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb1 Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 I agree and support very much the new Rating system through RFC! I would only add that it would be good to remove the name of the author and the title of the photograph in the RFC, as someone already suggested it!! So the rating would be more honest! Still, photographers are giving rates without leaving any comments, and I would like to have more constructive comments, no matter the rating! Biliana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheely Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Biliana, I have noticed that you have been commenting on many pictures. You will get the reward of comments on your photo's as a result. I will now prove it to you .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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