Identified my 6x9

I picked up a little 6x9 at a show. Other than "Made in Germany"

there were no other marks on it.

 

Finally, a break through while on that auction site.

 

Thagee Folding Plate Camera 6x9.

 

Now, what can anyone tell me about this camera?

That would be Ihagee; europeans seem to write differently from americans...

 

<a href="http://www.ihagee.org/index.htm">http://www.ihagee.org/index.htm</a>

...in the same way that Isolette is frequently misspelled as Jsolette, on account of the way the word is scripted on the cameras. Hint to eB*y searchers: if you're looking for Isolettes, also search on the misspelled version!

Kai, Jsolette need not be a misspelling. Until very recently the Germans used an alphabet slightly different from the usual Roman one, and in it capital "I" looks like what we know as capital "J". Hence Jhagee.

 

Similar problem with older English, where the rules sometimes allowed "ss" to be represesented as "f". Or was it "ff"? Sorry, don't have examples ready to hand.

 

Cheers,

 

Dan

I think ss was never ff. If you look closely there was no complete crossbar on the double ff but merely a different font representation of ss. It was only used when ss occured as the last two letters in a word.

Hi Dan,

Thanks for the explanation! I didn't know that...

Cheers,

Kai

That's just a matter of lettertype. Funky fonts are used today too. See Konica Minolta - the A as an upside down V.

The Gothic J in German, as used in the beguining of a word is pronounced as a I (ee); but an I (ee) may also be used as the first letter in the word. The name Ihagee, is an abreviation of Industrie und Handels Gesellschaft m.b.h, founded by Johan Steenbergen. The initials of the company were IHG and the phonet rendering was(is) Ihagee (ee-ha-gue). Later on, the company name was changed to Ihagee Kamerawerk Steenbergen & CO.

 

Many German names are changed when pronounced in English ...FolksWagen, should be FolksW(va)gen, BMW should be Be M (eme) W (ve). From the French too Cordon Bleu should not be Cordon Blue.

 

Johann Sebastian Bach did not change as we say EEohann.

Correction: Should be VolksWagen (FolksVagen) Sorry!

"Until very recently the Germans used an alphabet slightly different from the usual Roman one, and in it capital "I" looks like what we know as capital "J". Hence Jhagee."

 

This has nothing to do with different alphabets. This has to do with script (handwriting) vs. printed text. When I write by hand, capital I comes out looking something like a printed J (hence the confusion), and capital J goes below the baseline, like a small j but taller and with no dot.

To correct my posting, ss appears only at the end of a word. The other font is used in the middle of a word.

it looks like a 2x3 version of the Graflex (Crown and Speed) line of cameras that were built around the early 1920's to 1940's

 

(Hint Hint - stay on topic here guys --;) )

"This has to do with script (handwriting) vs. printed text. When I write by hand, capital I comes out looking something like a printed J (hence the confusion)" - Joris.

 

Please, explain the printing of Carl Zeiss JENA which is pronounced EE-ena. My wallk clock is a JUGHANS printed but is pronounced EE-ughans. The lens on my Agfa Billy Record is printed Agfa-Anastigmat JGESTAR and the pronunciation is EE-guestar. Jugend (youth) EE-uguend.

Leica M5 "50 JAHRE" written on the camera but EE-ahre is pronounced. So on and so forth.

Well, whatever. The I/J issue seems to be confusing to many people, but it doesn't confuse me and I attribute that to the fact that I learned to write capital I like it is shaped on these cameras. Someone else can figure out the details if they wish :)

In some languages there's no correspondence to the "J" as pronounciation. "I" can get close ("ee") but not the same. "I" and "J" at the beginning of a german word do sound different. "I" is a vocal, "J" is a consonant. "Jena" and "Ihagee" sound completely different.

 

How they are written is, as i said, just a matter of lettertype. Especially with the initials, lots of companies played around and still do so.

Tito, i'd say a better way of writing how your examples are produced is with Y and not EE. Like, "Jugend" begins just like "Youth".

 

Ihagee and Isoly, otoh, are "ee".

"I" and "J" at the begining of a german word do sound different "I" is vocal, "J" is a consonant. Jena and Ihagee sound completely different." Csab Jozsa

 

Not so! Wrong! Read my post above. You pronounce Jena as Jenn-Air due to vendors at the camera-shows. It should be pronounced like Johann,(EE-O-Hann} as I aked my german speaking mother-in-law.

Looks like an Ihagee Duplex. I have an Ihagee Zweiverschluss-Duplex on my table at the moment and it has horizontal film format 9x12cm and it has a focal plane shutter in addition to the central shutter. Both have the same kind of folding finder.