james_castagno Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 The title may be misleadind=g as I will only be getting rid of 1 zoom lens but here we go. I currently shoot a Canon 28-70 f2.8L and a Canon 70-200 f4L, I shoot mainly people at events (groups) as well as portrait situations (headshots, full length). I can shoot the 28-80 for portraits on my 20D with no probems and with my film bodies I can use it for the group photo stuff, I tend to use film for the group stuff because I have to proof everything anyway and I generally include the the negs in my price so they can print what ever enlargements they want later. I shoot almost all my portrait stuff outside as I do not have a studio and I find that the photos shot with the 70-200 are to busy background wise even wide open. I find myself shooting wide open at 200mm to get what I want so I figured maybe I should switch out the 70-200 for a couple of primes to cover the range, I was considering the 85mm f1.8 and the 135mm f2L. I realize that I will be limited to a 135mm field of view with film but I do not think that will be a problem for what I use film for. My main question is what kind of DOF/bokeh can I expect wide open with 135mm compared to the 70-200 for full length stuff? I reaize that DOF is related to distance to subject and I realize that the 1.6 factor will make me back up to get the framing I will need and I am wondering if that will negate any advantage the faster prime will have over the slower zoom in the same situation. Sorry for the long rambling post, thanks in advance for any responses I receive. JimC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_lu Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 certainly the 135/2@2 will have less dof than 200@4...how about googling a depth of field calculator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyinca Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 With a circle of confusion of 0.02mm, the DOF range for 135@f2 at 3 meter is 2.981 to 3.020 or .039m (~1.5 inches). The DOF range for 200@f4 at 4.44 meter is 4.363 to 4.439 or .076m (~3 inches). I hope I got all the calculation right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
istvan_sandor Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 James, check this out. Load the relevant data and all your questions will be answered. As were mines..It's a great tool... Best, Istvan http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_r1 Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 I recently sold my 70-200 f4 in favor of the 85/1.8 and 135/2 combo, and I am quite happy with the performance of both lenses. The 135/2 is a great lens & sharp wide open - f2 isn't useful for group shots, but it's great for headshots and outdoor portraits. You'll also find there is a big difference in viewfinder brightness when comparing an f2 lens with an f4 lens. Play around with the online depth of field calculators a bit & see if these lenses are right for you. There are Canon rebates available through 1/31/05 to sweeten the deal, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west_cork Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 The 135 2.0 is fantastic - you can get smooth out of focus backgrounds at f 2.0 that look like a 300mm at f2.8. It's great for portraits out of doors. I used just this and a 35mm 2.0 for a year as my only two lenses on film EOS's. You might consider the 135 and the 50mm 1.4 - makes an 80mm 1.4 on the 20D - I think the results at f1.4 using 1600 and 3200 ASA are incredible. I also use the 135mm indoors at f2.0 and 1600 or 3200 ASA for headshots and candids - quite amazing. People hardly take any notice, as they think it's impossible that you are actually taking pictures, and then you give them an 8"x12" print that looks like 400 ASA film. I haven't had any problems with focusing, and I find I can handhold slower than a film camera because the mirror is smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakim_peled1 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 I second everything Joe said but with one small exception. In my case it's the 85/1.8 + 200/2.8. HTH. Happy shooting, Yakim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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