matt_borengasser Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 This is a long reply to John Andrew??s question ??Why take photographs??? It includes a bit of writing that I did about 2 years ago, so it??s abit of a long read. But this is the philosophy forum, so??I hopethere??s not any complaint about reading. But it is philosophy ofphotography. You know those 4 noble truths that the Buddha set out?...1)life issuffering 2) suffering is caused by desire 3) end desire by endingsuffering 4) end suffering by following the 8 fold path. Well, ifyou think much about this, it's a paradox. The minute you want to endsuffering by ending desire, you've started to desire again??the desireto end the suffering. So a lot of people say Buddhism is a crock,just as there was some criticism for John Andrew's posting this"question with no answer". Now,however, religious philosophers suchas the late Alan Watts tell us that the original Buddha intended to"wake us up" by getting us to reflect, and that his 4 normal truthswere meant to ??start a dialogue??. So in such a way, it is veryimportant and I think healthy to ask pointless questions if they endwith a realization of some sort. And you don't know if they're goingto lead to a realization unless you ask them. At the same time, I'm feeling a bit like a self-contradiction, becauseI thought the post seemed a bit like it was asking a question that wasa bit pointless. It reminded me of a recording by Watts (who you'llall have to forgive me for quoting so often, but maybe it needs to bethis way) who said, "If you hear your own ear, you have ringing of theear. If you see your own eye, you have cataracts. If you think aboutthinking then..." But then Watts did nothing but think, so?? So. Anyway, I would suggest the "answerless questions" don't end. Uh-hum... As for me...:) Well??here is something I wrote about two years ago,and I think that it sums up my general anxiety in life which causes meto take photos. It says a lot about things that I do that I couldjust as well not do it seems, and yet I can??t ??not do them"?? includingphotography. Here it goes: Now, you can only look back and wonder what those days were like. They are so far in the past that it seems they are a part of someformer life time. Not even a recent lifetime. One several cyclesback. Since then things have changed. You can't even remember whatyou were like then. You can't remember what you knew and didn't know. The knowledge you have since gained, necessarily erased the ignoranceof yesterday. And the ignorance of today, keeps you from knowing whatthe things you knew before. Yesterday??s naivety has been replaced with experience, but notnecessarily wisdom. You think back wondering if you even need to knowwhat you know today. Was that what you were searching for? Were yousearching for knowledge or experience? Either of these? Or one butnot the other? Or neither? It doesn't matter. You have them, and soyou are changed. You try to look back, but you can't see anythingclearly. Scenes are confusingly vague. Feelings for people you onceknew are forgotten. Or you have since learned that they are not thepeople you thought they were. Who are they? Who are you? Sometimes you tell yourself that it doesn't matter who you were. Youare evolving and that is what life is about. You are meant to shedyourself again and again, replacing yourself with a new one. Aren'tmost people quite pleased when they learn something new? But you'renot. You don't want to learn anything new. You still can't figureout why your life had to evolve past age six when you were still smallenough that your father held you in his arms and called you names thatyou don't dare let slip past your lips. You are reminded now of thattaxi driver who suggested that Mao Zi Dong should have retired in 1950after liberating the country. Now you feel you should have retiredfrom life after learning to spell your last name. Isn't that all thatmatters? Finding out who you are? Isn't everything else just anexcuse to go on living because you are afraid to die? You feel amusednow. So it isn't that bad and you're glad you??re alive because youenjoyed the conversation with that taxi driver. You enjoyed it somuch that you've been waiting for it to happen again. That is all youwait for. You wait for those little pleasures to happen again. But your still looking back as well, aren't you. Your life is like anotebook. You are constantly taking notes and when you don't havetime to take down the little events of the day as they happen youwrite them down at night. It was the same when you were younger andwrote down the more significant dreams on waking in the morning. Theones that you can still remember today and you know it is only becauseyou wrote them down that you can remember them. You are dead set onnot forgetting these most precious moments. Yet they are fading, andit is less and less clear what they really meant. It is less clear what they really meant, and because of this it isless clear what your life means. If you pass from day to day and youcan not recall the most important events--the events that shaped yourlife, then what does your life mean? Or are you just filling in thetime since you learned to spell your last name? No. You??re not. Youare determined not to do that. So you spend most of your days andnights remembering. You are nearing midlife and you know that thenext half will be spent trying to figure out what the first half wasall for. So you spend the good parts of your days remembering. Andit's getting harder to remember?? I think that sums up why this weekend I'm going to go out with my camera. 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jen ford Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 Why did I take photographs 10 years ago? Why do I take photographs today. Am I the same person taking the photographs that I was 10 years ago? Sometimes I think ....what in the world was I thinking! So yes...the answerless questions open up a "dialog" or actually allow us to think a bit "out of the box". All and all I think it is probably good for our creative part of the brain. Best,, Jen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tea man Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 In my student days while travelling thru Europe, I happened to be travelling on a train thru Greece with another fellow student traveller I had just met. As the train passed over the Corfu Channel Bridge, I instinctively grabbed my camera to take a photo. That instant I peered thru the viewfinder, I knew that any shot I took would be akin to a bad postcard at best. I snapped anyway and as I turned back to my seat, she, my fellow travel mate flashed me a look that said all too clearly, "why?". Since then, I've taken thousands of photos but have yet to come out with a satisfactory answer to that question. All I know is that its a compulsion. I guess its the same compulsion that drives us to do the other trival things in life, as matt has alluded to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeman458 Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 "Since then, I've taken thousands of photos but have yet to come out with a satisfactory answer to that question. All I know is that its a compulsion." You do it, if I may, for good reason. To have proof to show others that you were there. It's a personal photojournalistic affirmation record of your trip which you can share with others when you get home. The images become a form of converting your experience into a souvenir. And there's also the offshoot possibility that you're a work-a-holic and you need something to do besides sit around and let the day go by unproductive:) All of these reasons are good things. Photographing as a record is more then just the act of tripping the shutter as it allows you to cronicle extended family life and sadly after a while is all that remains of it. If I'm off base in my thinking my apologies. Hopefully my comments have given you some insight to your comment. Enjoy the image taking process but be sure to on occation leave the camera at home for day trips and focus on the ones your with, otherwise they end up missing the benefit of your company:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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