Alex_Es Posted November 13, 2004 Author Share Posted November 13, 2004 Cheers, Al. I think Dr. Knapp has earned his evening at the theatre. It's 2:19 a.m. and I am having way too much fun at this ungodly hour... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_buckner Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 <<Albert worked his ass off for several years to get the right to add the Dr. before and/or the M.D. after his name. You should try keeping up the schedule of doctor doing his/her residency, try to find the time to maintain a semblance of family life, some days even to get through an uninterupted meal.>> Great. And if I'm his patient, I'm glad to know all that. But none of it is relevant to his photography, even though he reaches for it. If you think it is relevant, get a brain. Gee, Al, you don't know what I went through to get my education, do you? Maybe Albert should try walking my path. Oh, and my credentials as an art critic? Well, my current credentials certainly aren't enough for you guys. I need to get an M.D. But next time I publish a critique, I'll put all my degrees after my name. Then I won't have to work so hard on the critique. Give it up, Al. You're not smart enough to deal with me. And you other guys. I know you're praising those shots in an effort to annoy me. But be careful: Albert will take it seriously! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike dixon Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 <i>Give it up, Al. You're not smart enough to deal with me.</i><P> This from a guy who claimed that a particular lens "resisted diffraction" when stopped down. Smart enough to explain that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 You're quite right, Red! I'm nowhere near smart enough to deal with you. Nobody is. Henceforth I'm requesting that all the rest of the stupid uneducated slobs here like myself completely ignore your postings, not respond to them in any way whatsoever! This will leave you with ample time free to continue constructing the pedestal around which we lesser beings can gather, bring gifts, and kneel down, heads bowed, in honor of your greatness. Please, I humbly beseach you, forgive our boorish prior transgressions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael s. Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 Fellas, fellas, c'mon.<p><p> Albert took some very enjoyable photos, even more impressive given that they were taken from a seat in the audience (decent seat, I'd guess). And Alex did a very gentlemanly and generous thing in scanning and posting those photos.<p><p> Both deserve our appreciation. <p><p> And Red, despite your bluster and your feigned don't-give-me-any-of-this-MD posturing, my research reveals that you've actually got an<a href=http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00A5iB>"MD" after your name, too</a>. Just holdin' out on us, weren't ya?<p><p> By the way, Al is way smarter than the average bear. Knows quite a bit more about photography, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tito sobrinho Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 Add Eliot Porter,MD to the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert knapp md Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 Dr. Red, n'est-ce pas? Why rant about a title when YOU know it has nothing to do with the final product. The beauty and strength of this forum lies in the fact that we are: all equal, all interested in photography (with a penchant for Ms and Rs...), all respect everyone else as both people and photographers and consequently treat people with the courtesy and encouragement they deserve. Remember one thing, Dr. Red, the equipment and the location can improve upon the photograph BUT.. in the end run, it is the photographer's talent/luck that produces the image. It behooves you to remember this and not demean a fellow enthsiast. I am glad that the photographs have been enjoyed by the overwhelming majority of my forum-mates. Alex, good luck with the Viewfinder. You will find Bill Rosauer a prince of a man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socke Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 I shot ballet in the Teatro Saudo in Matanzas/Cuba last saturday and the monday before. Of cause photography was not allowed, but all those whose digicams tried to iluminate the stage with those tiny flashes distracted everyone from my Contax TVS on monday and G2 on saturday :-). Now I can't wait for the negatives, hopefully there is something usable. Nice pictures Albert and thanks for sharing, mine won't come close! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_buckner Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 About my MD... You're very droll, Michael. That's one MD that makes for better pictures! :-) Actually, my degrees are A.B., MFA, and Ph.D. See, Al? See how lucky you are to even have me around? And my degrees are in the ARTS! On the signal, KOWTOW NOW! <<This from a guy who claimed that a particular lens "resisted diffraction" when stopped down. Smart enough to explain that?>> Sure. The Summaron, when stopped farther and farther down, shows very little loss of quality through refraction. "Resisted" is metaphorical. We in the arts tend to be metaphorical. Man, some of you guys are like pigeons flapping around the SKYSCRAPER OF MY INTELLECT. (That's another meta..., you know) Note Albert's last note, guys. See? He's taking all that praise seriously. I know that you can't practice medicine without a strong ego; but in areas where you are amateur, a little humility is in order. But then again, maybe I'll join 'em rather than lick 'em. I'll resign from photo.net, then rejoin with my degrees listed after my name. Hey, I feel my photography improving already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_buckner Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 <<Why rant about a title when YOU know it has nothing to do with the final product?>> That is exactly my point! And if you recognize that yourself, you are being inconsistent in putting M.D. under your photographs. Indeed, it has nothing to do with the final product, so why wave it at people? Do you put M.D. on your laundry stubs? Monogram it on your shirts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_buckner Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 You know, I've just been using too many words. I should have said only this: Albert, don't put MD under your photographs. It looks amateurish and insecure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhooru Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 Nice job Doc Red... in hijacking the thread. Why don't we just rename it. Subject: Formerly Dr. Knapp's Pix..etc, Now all about Red. . .You could even throw in some pictures, wow that would be soooo cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_buckner Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 You want traditional, original, or sleazy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 Dr. Albert, if You don't go to enjoy the performance, why don't you just stay home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_buckner Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 Wait. Did I actually say "diffraction," or was I misquoted? I meant "refraction." I get those two words mixed up. I'm absentminded the way Einstein was sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 For the benefit of anyone interested in reading <b>Dr. Knapp's article</b>, last week I scanned and OCR'd it along with the images, emailing Albert the lot, but despite my best efforts to lead him step by step through the fine science of uploading them to the forum he resisted. ;-) <br><br> Flu prevented me from uploading it earlier but as of this afternoon it's appended to <a href="http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00A4Rb">the original thread</a>. <br><br> I'm sorry for the backposting but I missed this header. Anyway, do follow the link and read the article. I believe it's better than the pics, which aren't bad, BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike dixon Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 <i>Did I actually say "diffraction," or was I misquoted? I meant "refraction." I get those two words mixed up. I'm absentminded the way Einstein was sometimes.</i><P> Robert/Randy/Red, it's just as nonsensical to say a lens resists refraction when stopped down as it is to say it resists diffraction. (I know this doesn't matter when your objective is trolling, but it would be a shame if the folks interested in photography were misled.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_buckner Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 He still can't understand metaphorical language, and he thinks I'm a dentist. Another pigeon flapping around that skyscraper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike dixon Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 I understand the metaphor "skyscraper of my intellect" (though it brings to mind another metaphor: making a mountain out of a molehill). "Resisting diffraction" or "resisting refraction" when stopped down aren't metaphors--they're simply nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis1 Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 empty vessels make the most noise. Joo Joo Joo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert knapp md Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 Red- you are not funny. In fact, as a physician, I feel bad for you as you obviously have some major inner conflicts going on. You insult me because I have MD after my name. Did you ever bother to ask why or is that to much of an intellectual leap? The answer is simple: I use my name with title as most of my emailing is for professional purposes and I don't see why I should have two identities. What intrigues me is your inappropriate degree of vitriol not only toward me but toward anyone else who dares to criticize you. Furthermore, your flights of fancy, couched in puerile, maudlin, sophomoric and grandiose metaphors, are indicative of, to put it politely, a major "loose screw." Here is some free medical advice, consult your local psychiatrist and get some help. While my colleague is busily loading you up with Prozac or Celexa,I entreat you to disappear back into your metaphorical skyscraper and desist polluting this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl1 Posted November 14, 2004 Share Posted November 14, 2004 <P><b>Alex,</b></p>You have come a long way. I still remember when Sandy was trying to coach you on the steps of posting an image on PN. Now look at how far you have progressed. Good work. Do you know where Sandy is by the way? How come he doesn't join us anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Es Posted November 14, 2004 Author Share Posted November 14, 2004 Thank you Gabriel! That's nice to hear. I still have a lot to learn about the digital darkroom. The hardest part was uploading that first awful image. Don't know what Sandy's up to. Maybe if he is watching over us he'll give us a sign. Hoping he can look to the positive things about this forum and let the dreck pass. "Skyscraper of my intellect" my ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert knapp md Posted November 14, 2004 Share Posted November 14, 2004 Alex and Jorge: my thanks once again for posting my images. I plan to purchase a scanner sometime next year but in hte interim, you were both so kind to do this for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Es Posted November 14, 2004 Author Share Posted November 14, 2004 Albert, it was fun! Highly encourage you to get a scanner. Also Photoshop 7 (or whatever the latest is). Jorge and I can walk you through the uploading process, also give you digital darkroom tips. Carry on with your great work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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