stefano_giannuzzi Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 If you have any, could you please post some sample pix taken with C/V 75/2.5 Wide Open and Stopped Down? I?m interested in seeing the qualitࠡnd how it handles people ? street photography. Thank in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kris Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 This <a target="_blank" href="http://www.photo.net/photo/2574258"> one</a> is taken at f/2.5. These two were taken at f/2.8, not really wide open: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.photo.net/photo/2445500"> one</a> and <a target="_blank" href="http://www.photo.net/photo/2556124"> two</a> <p> Obviously those photos are too small to see the lens sharpness. No photos taken with the lens stopped down since I don't really like photos with everything in focus. <p> How it handles on the street? Pretty hard to focus with Bessa R2 unless you use the lens at f/8 or even slower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry h-l Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 The optical qualities of a spoon must be better than my cooking. Cosina Voigtlander 75mm f2.5 Color-Heliar (LTM) on an M2. Wide open or possibly f2.8, on HP-5, Xtol 1-1. A superb lens.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefano_giannuzzi Posted September 10, 2004 Author Share Posted September 10, 2004 Hi, Kris, thank you for your fast reply ;-)How is judgement about this lens? could you recommend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just eric Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Stefano Quite honestly, this is one of the lenses I reach for when taking portraits. The performance is pretty good wide open. It has a very pleasing bokeh to it. While I don't have anything to post, I have taken some of my favorite snaps of my kids with this lense. It is inexpensive by leica standards and easy to use. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rover Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 I also will recommend the 75 Heliar. It produces excellent images as seen above. I will also repeat the concern though that if you are using a Bessa R or R2 body, it does take an effort to focus up close and wide open. That is a function of the camera though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kris Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Stefano, this lens is indeed very nice. It produces pleasing bokeh (according to my eyes) and its size/weight is just perfect. Sharpness, well I never use tripod with this lens and I don't shoot Kodak Tech Pan either but so far I have no complaints. <p> Focusing and framing with Bessa R2 are rather challenging. I'd be much happier with Canon EF85/1.8 with its ring USM if size isn't taken into account. <p> Will I recommend this lens? Yes if you can take time carefully focusing or you will take photos with the lens stopped down. No if you want to snap into focus quickly of a moving subject especially when used wide open. <p> HTH, Kris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_morris4 Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Larry, are you using the 90mm frame lines with this lens on the M2? If so, have you been satisfied with that arrangement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul t Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 I tried using the 75 on a CL with 90 framelines. Too much like hard work. Focusing was diffficult with the CL - more because of the small rangefinder patch, rather than the narrow base. In the end got rid of it for an Elmar C... and bought a Nikkor 85 AIS, which in comparison is blissful. Use the Nikon when I KNOW i'm taking portraits, and take the CL/ELmar just on the off-chance. <p> Although I never took one good photo with it, construction of the VC was great, and it was nice and compact. If I had an M, with 75 framelines, I'd consider trying one again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime lens Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 I have been using the CV 75/2.5 Color-Heliar with a Bessa R2, and also with a Bessa T and the CV 75mm external viewfinder. I don't have any good examples ready to post, but I am extremely pleased with the lens (not only on its own merits, but also for the price). It seems very sharp, clear and natural, with relatively "neutral" bokeh (aperture-shaped highlights are evenly illuminated, rather than having "bad" bokeh with bright outer rings and a dark center, or "good" bokeh with dark outer rings and a bright center). The colors are bright and clear, and I haven't yet noticed any flare, even shooting backlit subjects outside on a bright, overcast day. I have been using the supplied hood. Focusing the 75/2.5 can be a little tricky with the R2, but framing is relatively straightforward. With the Bessa T, focusing is much easier because of the highly-magnified separate rangefinder with diopter adjustment. It's a hassle if you have to focus on something like a black Labrador retriever or a field of grass, where getting a clear split image is difficult. Framing with the 75mm VF on the Bessa T takes some practice. You have to remember that the actual field of view extends below the bottom brightline when focusing at around 2 meters and closer. In landscape mode, I mentally move the whole frame down so that its top corresponds with the dotted parallax-correction line in the VF. Inevitably, upward-tilted shots of converging vertical lines in portrait mode will show some rotational geometric error because of parallax, but that's the way it is with a rangefinder camera. Being unable to frame with compulsive precision helps one to be spontaneous and can be quite liberating. This lens is generally quite highly-regarded, and I would recommend it heartily. It's compact, light, and relatively fast, not too difficult to focus on a camera with a relatively short effective rangefinder baselength (such as the CL, CLE, Bessa R and R2), and fills a valuable and otherwise empty niche in the market. I think Kris's "dream girl" shot shows the lovely colors the lens can render. Jorge M. Treviño posted a really nice B&W shot made with the SLR version of the CV 75/2.5 in Nikon mount on this forum a few days ago: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=009LxJ (sorry I didn't make a proper link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry_akiyoshi Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 It's a shade soft wide open and pretty much outstanding stopped down to f/5.6. Other people have demonstrated that it has pretty nice bokeh and so forth, so I'm not going to post more pictures -- you can't see sharpness on a computer screen. If you want a longish lens for street work, it's an excellent choice, being compact and short enough to scale-focus on bright days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott squire nonfiction Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 I miss this lens more than the 40 Summicron I had before I sold off all my RF stuff to buy into digital. Sigh. This one's wide open. It's one of my favorite people lenses, period, and will be first lens I buy next time I can afford an M mount body (after a 35, which I use more often)<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 This is one of the few shots made with this lens that I have online. This one was made at about f/8 and infinity, although there's not much that can be judged from an image this size. Right now I'm traveling but at home I have some very good examples of close focusing wide open (portraits). It has an exquisite smooth OOF signature (bokeh). I'll try to catch up with the thread nex Monday when I'm home. <br> <center> <a href="http://www.photo.net/photo/2435917&size=lg"> <img src="http://d6d2h4gfvy8t8.cloudfront.net/2435917-lg.jpg"> </a> <br> <i><b>Click on image for details</i></b> </center> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefano_giannuzzi1 Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Thank you very much Jorge, thank you all!!! Photo.net is a fantastic place !!!! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry h-l Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 John M, I use the 50 frame line on the M2, with the 50/75 adapter ring. I also use a Hexar, so this brings up the proper frames. I own the 75mm V/C finder, it is excellent, but I rarely use it. Changing external finders is a bit of a hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Stefano, <br><br> If you are still on this thread, this photo was shot with the 75 nearly wide open. Camera was a Bessa R tho. <br> <br> <center> <a href="http://www.photo.net/photo/2696064"> <img src="http://d6d2h4gfvy8t8.cloudfront.net/2696064-md.jpg"> </a> <br> <i> Click on the image for details. </i> </center> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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