avid Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Can anyone recommend a solution to improving image on the ground glass on a Toyo 45G? The image is so dark even under a dark cloth, it is frustrating. Is there a way to put something like a bright Intenscreen or a fresnel glass? What are my choices? Can I switch out whatever it is myself without disturbing the focus plane? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avid Posted October 18, 2004 Author Share Posted October 18, 2004 Another quick question. Does anyone have experience using this camera in the field for landscapes? Is it worth the extra weight in the field to get all the view camera movements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_schrager Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Google :satinsnow glass and you will find what you need to improve your viewing problem. Ask for David. I understand their screens are really bright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_ellis3 Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Watch out for SatinSnow. I waited a month for mine and when it arrived it didn't have the corners cut as I had specified and it was too short to fit my camera. I sent two e mail messages about these problems and received no response to either, no "sorry about the problems," no "we'll send a correct one right away," no "refund is on its way," just total silence. I have the impression that this is an outfit that was good when it was small but that has been unable to cope with its success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oskar_ojala Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Hmmm...I don't find mine all that dark, most of the time I don't need my hood at all. However, I'm not sure if this is the original screen, but it sure ain't fresnel. How fast is your lens? Viewing at f11 and smaller is not that bright. For landscapes, there should be better choices. I do mostly buildings and urban landscapes, where more extreme movements are really useful, but the camera definitely isn't light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avid Posted October 18, 2004 Author Share Posted October 18, 2004 Oscar, most of the lenses are f/5.6 to f/8 and I always have it wide open for focussing. Perhaps you have a bright screen of some sort that mine doesn't. They do provide factory installed fresnel in some cases which mine missed it seems. You have perhaps answered my other question as in you use the system on location and not only in studio. Do you find it too bulky? It seems I will have to use it mostly near my vehicle because the camera and tripod adds up to quite a bit. Peter's suggestion of satinsnow is appreciated. I will look into it and I hope I don't have to go through the ordeal as Brian had to. Any other suggestion for other products, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary_mccutcheon Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Toyo sells a fresnel that works fine. Installed it myself. Contact them on their web site or contact a dealer. I believe B&H and Calumet are dealers. There are many others. Good luck. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oskar_ojala Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 I use a 5.6 lens and don't have any fresnel - it's just plain ground glass. Of course, whether brightness is a problem or not depends a lot on the conditions, the user etc. I do use it in the field, I can do that, but definitely wouldn't mind it being lighter :-) OTOH, I've never had a problem with vibration, even doing macro (though I don't shoot in hard wind.) this really depends a bit, you must really try out and see for yourself how it works for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtk Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 I loved my 45 G...but it's a silly camera for the field. IMO you'd be better off with an old press camera and a modern lens. Most of the old Arizona Highways stuff was shot that way. No need for expensive "field cameras" unless you have unique needs for the movements and a bunch of lenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_ginn Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Hand ground hand made ground glass for 4x5 5x7 8x10 large format cameras and GREAT Price improve brightness: http://www.satinsnowglass.com/ I paid $13.95 total for my 4x5. a happy customer, dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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