michael_pye Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I was wondering if anyone knew of a site that had downloads of very large scans of 5x4 images? If you look at this site - http://www.dpreview.com/gallery/ They have the photograph and then an option for the full size digital image. It would be nice to see some 5x4 images around the same size. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico_digoliardi Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 It would be nice to be PAID to put up and host the images, too. dpreview is for profit. FWIW, I have done a lot of work with arbitrarily large images on the web. There are a few ways to do it. They are online now for proprietary purposes. I will check with the client and see if I can post examples. But who wants to do it for nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole_tjugen Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 What's a "full size" 4x5" scan? I have a scan of a 5x7" slide here - it's 105 megapixels. And that's scanned at only 1000 dpi, there is far more information in the film. <br><br> <a href="http://www.bruraholo.no/images/Lodalen_GF.jpg">Here is the whole picture.</a><br> <a href="http://www.bruraholo.no/images/Lodalen_utsnitt.jpg">This is a small piece of it at lower "reduction".</a><br> So how big is your monitor? And more important - how big is my server bandwidth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert x Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 not 5x4, but here is a nice full size image from a leaf back from an alpa camera.... http://www.leaf.alpa.ch/ALPA_35XL_CERN2_ns.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jess_lee Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Why do you want the full sized file? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_pye Posted November 17, 2006 Author Share Posted November 17, 2006 Thanks everybody. Robert X, yeah that was about the size I was thinking of. I just really want to see the detail. I'm thinking of going 5x4 but I want to see if I think it's worth it compared to other mediums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico_digoliardi Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 <i>So how big is your monitor? And more important - how big is my server bandwidth?</i><p> 30" monitor. Bandwidth? gigibit internally, T1 (actually two)to the outside, and we are also on Internet 2 but you can't be. Nya, nya. :) It's so fast on a bad day that opening a device all the way across the USA is like having an external USB2 drive! :) <p> But back to earth. The method I like best for huge images is to present a full-image to the size of the monitor quickly, at modest resolution and then if there is no input (keyboard, mouse) it fills in the rest iteratively. Meanwhile, if there is input, for example the user clicking on a location, it breaks out a section around that area in a new window (a cheap and easy copy method) and then fills that in the same way. Another click in there, more detail, and so-forth. I have found that it is a rare case where someone is not happy with seeing the low overall image, and then a few separate high-res detail frames. Rarely is the entire image loaded. What's different about this approach than others is that it uses multiple windows instead of beeing Zoomie. <p> If I weren't so tighly coupled with the application development, I'd put it out there.<p> But it will be everywhere and probably dirt-cheap Real Soon Now.<p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheldonnalos Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Here's my contribution... Full frame image followed by a 100% crop from an 1800dpi scan from a rather ordinary flatbed scanner.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheldonnalos Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 And the 100% crop...<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_pye Posted November 18, 2006 Author Share Posted November 18, 2006 Thanks for that. The detail is quite incredible. What set up did you use to take this shot? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troyammons Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 I have a few here and other scattered around my pbase site http://www.pbase.com/tammons/mf_vs_4x5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_pye Posted November 18, 2006 Author Share Posted November 18, 2006 Thanks for the link. Your work is excellent and very inspiring for me to look into 5x4. Some really nice shots on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheldonnalos Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 The setup used to take the shot isn't really important other than the lens. I think I used a Cambo monorail (cost about $100) on that particular picture, but now I use a wood field camera. The camera doesn't affect image quality, except to the extent that it remains stable/motionless during the exposure. The lens was a Nikkor SW 90mm f/8, a well regarded wide angle lens which costs about $500 on the used market. Film was Tri-X 320 developed in Xtol 1:1. I might have used a red filter for the exposure, but I'm not 100% sure on that point. Hope this helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_moravec1 Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 A monitor will not do justice to anything. Compare a 4x5 from 35mm with a 16x20. If you use 4x5, you can make a 16x20 that looks like 4x5 from 35mm if you get equal quality lenses, not 1960 vintage stuff. There will be a whole new set of problems with 4x5 though like dust on film, uneven processing, little debth of field, film buckling in holders. All can be overcome at some cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole_tjugen Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Ronald, my example was shot with "1960's vintage stuff": A 165mm f:6.8 Angulon. You are seriously underestimating the quality of "vintage" optics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabriel_benaim Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 In addition to detail, what you get, and remains through enlarging, is TONE, looads of it. Even Sheldon's small image shows this, even on a monitor. This is reason enough to move up from MF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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