mark_davies1 Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 I am looking for a camera that can have 6x9 and 6x12 format (interchangeable backs), can take from 58 to 135mm lenses, has some shift and rise movements and is not too heavy to carry. I currently have an Ebony 45SU with 69 and 612 backs, 72saxl and 150 sironar s - but with the need to carry also a gitzo 1327 tripod and arca swift b1 head, and pack and film and light meter it gets heavy!!! after a few miles or so. I don't need the 4x5 format but would like some shift especially for foreground or sky elimination. Is there any other unit other than the Horseman (which is fantastic but what a price) that may suit? Thanks in advance. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_verbryck Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 I use a crown graphic for this purpose, I stripped it down so it weighs about 3 1/2 pounds it has limited shift rise capability. It will take lenses from 47-300. I shoot 6x12 almost exclusively for my color stuff and this combination works well I usually use the bogen 3021 with s set up . Cheers George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam_crater Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 If you like your 45SU except for weight, trade it for a SW45 or RSW45, and get a gitzo 1 series tripod and matching ballhead. The whole kit will weigh about half as much as the one you're carrying now, and you can use your 4x5 lenses with it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_owen Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 Keep the SU and ditch the roll film backs! Much easier to crop full frame 5x4 sheets to panoramic format or smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_g Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Much easier to crop full frame 5x4 sheets to panoramic format or smaller...here in france, it cost 5 times more to do so ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_davies1 Posted July 21, 2004 Author Share Posted July 21, 2004 Gents, thanks heaps for the advice. I do like the 45SU and believe that therefore the most appropriate idea for me so far is Sam's one. I will sell the 45SU and get the RW45. I have the Arca Swift B1 head so will look for the Gitzo series 1 tripod. I do love the B1 head. Thanks heaps for your advice. Isn't it amazing how an answer may be right in front of you but you don't seem to see it until someone else points it out. Best wishes to you all. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franka t.l. Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Horseman 612PRO might work for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harshan Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Another option is the Walker Titan XL... www.walkercameras.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_davies1 Posted July 25, 2004 Author Share Posted July 25, 2004 I have just looked at the walker Titan XL. It looks good but slightly restricted with bellows movement. However, with only wanting to use a 150mm lens max it should be enough. Has anyone used the Silvestri/Cambo Wide/ type of camera for landscapes? Do these compare in practicality with the Ebony 45/Canham DLC type of camera for flexibility? I realise they have even less bellows movements but if they were more advantageous with regards to setting up, weight, portability they may also be considered. Thanks, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_owen Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 Mark I used the Silvestri SLV a while ago with the 47mm and 100mm lenses and a 6x9 roll film back. They are very fine cameras but are not in the same league as fully-featured view cameras. I really appreciate the versatility that movements give! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don_miller2 Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 Sams idea seems best for true camera movements. You could also trade the 72xl for the 80xl if you want a fast light lens in that range. Or the 110xl and a 40-60mm digital lens. Possibly sell the 6x9 back and crop the 6x12 to save weight. Have you looked at largeformatphotography.info for lightweight lenses? For true handheld without movements badgergraphic is listing the new chinese Fotoman 6x12 and 6x17 which takes standard LF lenses (instead of LF lenses marked up 2.5 times as panoramic glass). Good luck, Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_buck1 Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 Re: Cambo Wide DS: John Davies (http://www.johndavies.uk.com/) has used an older version (pre DS) for years with mostly a 65mm SA with superb results. Calumet?s website doesn?t say so, but Cambo told me 2 years ago it would take a 120mm and maybe now a 135mm. Btw, John also believes 120 film is sharper than 4x5: it?s thinner, so it probably is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_davies1 Posted July 30, 2004 Author Share Posted July 30, 2004 Gents, Once again, Thanks very much for the advice. It is greatly appreciated. Happy days to all. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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