mark_lagrange3 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 more succinctly ... what Hans said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 �[� Z , jan 23, 2004; 07:16 p.m. "One of the few insightful things I've read from Hans so far." Stay tuned! There's more insight to come from Hans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nature-photography Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Sophie Thouvenin is who Gloria was referring to. I also find her work to be quite stunning. You can see her sight <a ref="http://prismes.free.fr/index.htm">here</a>. She definitely has the creative eye.<p> Hans made a very good point which I think it at the root of your answer. I see a lot of flower images that are just shot in bad light, which kills it instantly. Shoot in good light, well, it could make it a lot better, but still perhaps "boring" to some. You really have to capture the character of the particular flower (or flowers). I think when you emphasize that, many people will connect with your image.<p> Mark<br> <a ref="http://www.grafphoto.com">grafphoto.com</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nature-photography Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Well - I see I screwed up my HTML in my post, so here it goes again;<p> Sophie's site: <a href="http://prismes.free.fr/index.htm">Sopie</a><p> Mark<p> <a href="http://www.grafphoto.com">www.grafphoto.com</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lone ranger Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 Mike Spinak- I looked at your link, and my reaction was oh my god. what the hell is this? ive never seen anything like that. awesome work man, keep it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tholte Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 Craig Blacklock has some very nice wild flower images. The secret to his success is that he captures them in their natural environment. He most often uses 5x7 or 8x10 view cameras so the detail and colors are quite spectacular. If you want to see some of his photos, just enter his name on google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 <i> Stay tuned! There's more insight to come from Hans! </i><p> Like referring to yourself in the 3rd person? That's not going to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 �[� Z: If it was good enough for Caesar, it is good enough for Hans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige_buddy Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 everyone's covered the subject pretty well, so I'll just add my our fav flower pic. I have 2 or 3 others that I'd class as ok.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 <i> If it was good enough for Caesar, it is good enough for Hans. </i><p> And if it's good enough for pretentious fools too? Good enough for you too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray House Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Why do flower photos suck? Maybe your preconcieved notions are getting in the way. I don't think any general group of images can suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_senesac Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 When you say "flower shots are not very interesting" DW, I suspect you are talking about closeups as any landscape photographer readily seeks colorful flowers to foreground complement landscapes. The key to your statement is you seem to be gauging it by how members of this photography community rates them hererin. Therein lies most of the that issue. Experienced photographers will be much more critical because closeups of flowers have generally been shot to death such that it is difficult to be original as several here have noted. But that ought not detract from the essence of any well done such images which would readily be borne out by positive feedback and hence commercial value from the public. I also reject the notion that a flower photograph must somehow be uniquely artistic or original instead of the obvious. There is also much difference between someone that takes pictures of gaudy cultured flowers or those in gardens versus those that work with wildflowers in the natural landscape. A picture may be more than just its raw image. Some flowers are common and others are rare. Some grow in environments that are difficult to frame or under which lighting is awkward. Much more as this is a complex subject and not something that can be stuffed into someones black and white box of opinions. For myself by far the more difficult part of wildflower images from the field is more about finding the most aesthetic specimen versus the technical setup required to photograph such best. -David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildography Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Good answers above... most flower shots have ben done... and done... and done. In my opinion, the BEST flower shots are the ones that 1) isolate and enhance the flower into a "fine art" photographic shot to where it no longer is "just a flower", but a work of art OR 2) incorporates the flowers into an overall landscape. To me.. the shots of "just" a field of flowers is pretty... but not that eyecatching. Photos of flowers are a good example of snapshots VS photos. Snapshots have been DONE already... and require very little thought as to exposure, composition, etc. A GOOD photo requires some thought and / or preparation... occassionally a "snapshot" will capture the moment... but usually NOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 <i> most flower shots have ben done... and done... and done. In my opinion, the BEST flower shots are the ones that 1) isolate and enhance the flower into a "fine art" photographic shot to where it no longer is "just a flower", but a work of art OR 2) incorporates the flowers into an overall landscap </i><p> Some of the best recent flower photography I've come across is by James Merrell, a (UK?) commercial studio photographer who did great flower photography for Tricia Guild's book, "Cut Flowers." Hallmark Flowers saw the book, flipped over the images and hired him for their ad campaign -- where he made some really clever, beautiful work. <p> Today I came across some recent b&w flower photography by Lee Friedlander, who needed to shoot something while laid up indoors with a bad knee. Some interesting work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w_byrn Posted February 16, 2004 Share Posted February 16, 2004 Flowers are one of the ultimate exercises in photography; whether it is a bunch I have purchased at the farmers market,a friends back yard stand of tulips or acres of hillsides of wild poppys. As with most subjects difussed light with a concentrated single direction key light seems to bring out the best in a flower or flowers. Vibrant colors with accenting or boldly contrasting opposite color back grounds, with texture, help. Nice strong side light that comes throught translucent petals and the right amount of ambient light that wraps around the rest can create a composition that reminds one of the fact that a flower that does not attract a visitor to pollinate it may not return. If you look up some images of flowers by someone named Cunningham you would see that the only thing that sucked would be the bees and humming birds that came for the nectar. Walt Byrnes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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