amul Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 A semi-professional model friend of mine was good enough to let me learn from working with her last week. I'm a student and hobbyist photographer, with no plans to ever market my work. At the same time, I am interested enough in the hobby that I don't doubt some day I'll be paying professional models. Let's call me an amateur art photographer? Anyway, while working with her, I realized that I haven't been photographing *models*, I've been photographing my friends, if you can see the difference. The works I've been creating speak of the relationship I have with my subject matter. While I always realized there was a difference between working with professionals and amateurs, it had never struck me so profoundly. So here's my question. In the upcoming weeks, I'm supposed to be photographing an acquaintance of mine, partially as an excuse for us to spend more time together and hopefully become friends, and partially because I know she's experienced some emotions that I've never felt and want to try to capture on film (Specifically, the pains unique to a woman whose beloved is terminally ill). It was always sort of touchy about how we'd expose this side of her to my camera. Now I'm thinking that I'd also like to incorporate my recent lessons in the differences between professional and amateur models. But I'm not quite sure how to pull all of this together, and am looking for any advice, or stories about similar experiences. Please don't tell me that I'm biting off more than I can chew. The point of artistic endeavor is to test your limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 You worry too much! Just do your best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_de_fehr Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Amul, I work almost exclusively with friends and family, but have done some commission work as well. I understand the differences in approach and results that you refer to, but am at a loss as to how to advise you. Relax and remain alert and sensitive to opportunities is the best I can do. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twmeyer Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 models aspire to archetypes, your friend is one... a human being at the cusp of life and death. Spend time with her, and take your camera. Choose a place that has good light and be a friend to her, when opportunities arise, make a photograph. These photographs may become treasured documents of this period in her life, and you have the opportunity to learn a great deal from her. It's an honor that she would invite you to photograph her during this pivotal time... t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_oneill Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 I've worked with professional models, and the good ones are great at getting that rapport, so that you feel like you are photographing a freind. In the situation that you are describing, try to observe what she does naturally and work that into the picture. And make sure get her to talk about the things on her mind. Th emotion should ome through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavin martin Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 To capturea part of someone you must explore it with them. They have to take you on their journey. Talk to her . . . a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_hovland Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Let her talk, a lot, and shoot as she talks. Don't worry about getting one picture that says it all. It won't. The real story will be in many picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yance_marti Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 As an amateur, it may be difficult to convey specific meanings in your pictures. Try to get a specific impression of her and how that impression could be conceived visually. It may help to look at other people's portraits and see if you get a feeling for the subject. Try to find what provokes that feeling so that you understand the methods of attaining it. There are visual cues in the posture, direction of the eyes, lighting, and composition that convey emotion. Sometimes you may need to show the picture to someone who doesn't have a preconception of the subject to get an objective opinion. Above all, if you don't get the exact meaning on the first try, <b>keep trying</b>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amul Posted January 20, 2004 Author Share Posted January 20, 2004 Yance, Just out of curiosity, did you look at my portfolio before making this comment? I'd like to hear how well you think I've done so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yance_marti Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 Yes, I looked at the pictures you uploaded to Photo.net. Technically I think you could use some improvement but you have an interesting vision. Contemplation is the best as a single shot but sometimes several photos of one subject gives a better representation of that person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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