jo_l_cahane Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 All you Experts Here is what happened to me : I bought on E.... a Focomat IIC and in the description was mentionned a Focotar 5.6 100mm. Instead, when i received it, it was a V Elmar. I bought the enlarger for the lens. What i would like to know is the price difference between the two lenses that i am certain is great. Then, if the seller is not cooperative, what can i do ? On one hand it was not rightly described, but on the other they precised that they do not ship and that the seller had to take away the enlarger. Sorry being so long and open your eyes ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emile_de_leon10 Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 $400.00 to $600.00 difference between the 100mm Focotar and the V-Elmar. The focotar-2 blows the V-Elmar away and is worth the extra money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_obturateur Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 yes Joel you got ripped off... Tu t'es bel et bien fait arnaquer... There was no pix with the Bay auction?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_phelan Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 AFAIK there was no 100mm Focotar lens. The Focomat IIc came with a 50mm f4.5 Focotar-2 and a 100mm V-Elmar. The earlier Focomat IIa came with a 50mm Focotar (not -2) and the 95mm f4.5 Focotar. I owned a Focomat 1c Color with a Focotar-2 lens. It was fine at the time (70s-80s). If I were doing it now I would switch to Rodenstock Rodagons, especially the Apo variety. I think you got the correct lens and wouldn't sweat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emile_de_leon10 Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 Kent, I have a Leica 100mm Focotar 5.6 on my enlarger right now and it is probably the best of it's type ever made.It came with the later 2c's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jo_l_cahane Posted April 2, 2004 Author Share Posted April 2, 2004 Kent, there where four lenses for the Focomat II 1) Focotar 60mm F4.5 that remained inchanged all the enlarger life 2) Focotar 95mm F4.5 3) V Elmar 100mm F 4.5 4) Focotar II 100mm F5.6 60mm is ok and no more, 95mm same, V Elmar better but a lot of curvature and Focotar II Outstanding I do not think they ever equipped this enlarger with a 50mm lens but someone may be has information to share about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jo_l_cahane Posted April 6, 2004 Author Share Posted April 6, 2004 Sky is brighter This honest seller admitted his mistake and almost agreed on the principle of taking into account a price difference. Now i am looking for a fair way to determine the price difference between V Elmar 4.5 100mm and Focotar II 100mm lenses. Any idea ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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