noah_stout Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 Hi everyone,I'm wondering if anyone can give me some guidelines of how to shoot some richard avedon style portriats- the ones with the white background, taken from straigh on. what does he use for the white background? just a wall? how does he get the subject to stand out so well? what kind of lighting, etc?thanks,ns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 Get the book "Avedon at Work In the American West." Some of the photos show his setup. Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 http://www.google.com/search?q=avedon+setup+site:photo.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_fang Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005Y71Y" target="_blank">Richard Avedon - Darkness and Light</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek_stanton2 Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 As Al suggested, DEFINITELY get the Darkness and Light video. Avedon shoots a Rolleiflex TLR, with standard 80mm 2.8(F) Planar lens. He uses a Hasselblad with 150mm on occasion, to get closer, unless he uses the Rolleinars on the TLR. When he shoots large format, it's with a Sinar 8x10. Film is Tri-X or Plus-X, for B+W. I don't know if there's any recent information about colour film, given the changes in manufacturers' product lines over the years. The background, when in the studio, is a white studio cyclorama cove. If he wants it white, he lights it with 4-6 strobe heads, half on each side. If he wants a gray background, he lets the exposure on the background fall off to less than the key light. When he did American West, he shot against white seamless which was gaffer- taped to the shade side of whatever structures he could find (barns, etc.). Those pix were 8x10 view camera shots. How the subject stands out so well? Not sure what you mean. I think, from his beginnings, he's always used only one light on the subject. With colour, he may have used hair/rim/accent lighting, for fashion/beauty/Pirelli Calendar pix and such, but he's most known for the simplicity of one light, either a strobe (Elinchrom at one point), or the sun/daylight. He sometimes fills will a white card, or uses a metallic card for fill or a catchlight in the eyes. Printing has a great deal to do with the final result. The large format prints, especially, are intricately dodged and burned, based on Avedon's mark-ups of test prints. You can see just how much work goes into those prints from the video, or the EVIDENCE book (page 86). If you get the video, pay attention to the part where he describes how he got the expressions on the faces of the Duke and Dutchess of Windsor.... Avedon was often criticized for not 'flattering' his sitters. It's said that he was often "cruel." You can get away with that when you're a legend. If you're a commercial photographer, though, or shooting family/friends, Avedon's way may not make you very popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliot Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 Cloudy/overcast sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek_stanton2 Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 For American West, the white seamless was often taped to "the shade side of a barn." They also used trucks, mobilhomes, etc., but probably always with the goal of not using direct sunlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward_burlew Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 There is more to the technique than a white background. He also used a black gobo on each side of the subject. to duplicate that get a 3" peice of styrofoam 4x8 paint it black and set it just outside the frame and top it with a black sheet the same. then light the front with a soft box or big umbrella and light the background 1-1.5 stops higher than the front light. He would set this up on the street and in a studio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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