jack_lo_..._t_o Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 I'd have spent the $$ on an OM-4T of course. Black. Totally a-historical answer since Olympus is to Leica what Rock Music is to Rhythm and Blues. No Ms=no OMs. Rollei TLR is the perfect historical answer. For a modern rangefinder, the Fuji 6x9s look tempting and lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Photography Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 From a historical point of view, Leica was the camera which started 35mm photography. There was 24x36mm format before Leica, but it was not sucessful<p> If there was no Leica, there would not be any Contax RF, Canon 35, Nikon 35, or Canon EOS. The whole 35mm species would not exist.<p> What would be the camera most likey taking Leica's place ?<p> IMO, that one camera got to be Ermanox.<p> Modern photojournalism was invented by Solomon, with his Ermanox camera with a fast f/1.8 lens<p> Alfred Eisenstaedt also began his photojournalist career with an Ermanox camera in 1928.<p> He discovered Leica in 1930. If there was no Leica, Eisenstaedt probably would continued using his Ermanox for Life magazine. <p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b30307 Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 As several folks have pointed out, IF Leica had not come to be - most, if not all, 35mm cams wouldn't exist today. Martin Tai pointed to another fast, and relatively small camera of that era; the Ermanox. However, here in the US, the Ermanox was uncommon and I'm guessing difficult to acquire. If I'd been around then I might have "gone for" a Rolleiflex, 2x3 Speed Graphic, or a Zeiss Super Ikonta. In particular, the Super Ikonta was small and lightweight. Especially when you consider the big 6x6 neg it made. Also, the Zeiss lenses were better anything else available at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy m. Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 It is possible that if Leica hadn't developed 35mm that no one else would have, but who knows whether someone else would have come up with the idea. Many ideas seem to emerge when they reach their time. Assuming no Leica= no 35mm, then the Rollei TLR wins every time for me. As great as Leicas are, I still think Rolleis have the edge for many applications. One of the limitations of the Rollei is the viewing system, but practice helps to solve this one, as does the non optical, eye level viewer. Another observation I have made is that is that Rollei repair/service work costs a fraction of that of the average M Leica CLA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolaresLarrave Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 35mm film already existed when Leica came around. It was used for motion pictures. In fact, the first, very first 1911 Leica was a small box designed to "test" this film, and in the hands of Oskar Barnack it became the little box so revered among us today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray_moth Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 Andy said: <i>It is possible that if Leica hadn't developed 35mm that no one else would have, but who knows whether someone else would have come up with the idea. Many ideas seem to emerge when they reach their time. </i> I agree, I'm sure some inventor would have done so. <br><br>As for me, if Leica didn't exist I'd probably still be using Olympus OM. I used OM for 20 years but ditched it when I changed to Leica, having suddenly realized what <b>really good</b> cameras and lenses are like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Photography Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 Goerz Berlin Tenax is also terrific<p> <center> <img src="http://www.photo.net/bboard/image?bboard_upload_id=14327384"border=10><P> Compur shutter, Goerz Dogmar 100mm f/4.5 lens.</center> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Photography Posted February 21, 2004 Share Posted February 21, 2004 Long before any 35mm format or movie format exist, there was already 8x11mm format<p> 1838, Daguerrotype process was invented.<p> Soon afterward (1940 ?) a professor of physics at university of Munich , Carl August von Steinheil invented a daguerrotype camera making 8x11mm format image on polished silver coin <p> Minox 8x11 format had its deep root in the very early beginning of photography, almost as early as photography itself.<p> 8x11 format is half a century older than 24x36 format.<p> 8x11mm foramt is the longest surviving format to date, more than 150 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr._kenny Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 a plaubel makina 67 -- although i've never owned one i do like how that camera goes about its business! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr._kenny Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 i have been keeping my eye on this one: a contax 645. zeiss. autofocus. medium format. slr. kind of the opposite of my little leica, but you asked! the real reason is that whenever i look at a modern slr i just think they're too dang big for the dinky little neg you get -- why not shoot medium format compared to a canon? and the 80mm f2 planar is a really good lens. add the 45mm 2.8 and you're done.<br />but when low light beckons, i'd get a contax aria with a 35mm f1.4 distagon, that is a good setup when lit by candles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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